Jehovah's Witnesses vs. Hebrews 1:6

[Justin108]

Hebrews 1:6
And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him."

Why do Jehovah's Witnesses insist Jesus is not to be worshiped despite Hebrew 1:6?

I took a look at the NWT and they translate Hebrews 1:6 as
But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: “And let all of God’s angels do obeisance to him.�

Now I admit that I do not know Greek at all, but I do find it odd that the vast majority of translations translate this word as "worship".

New International Version
And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him."

New Living Translation
And when he brought his supreme Son into the world, God said, "Let all of God's angels worship him."

English Standard Version
And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.�

Berean Study Bible
And again, when God brings His firstborn into the world, He says: "Let all God's angels worship Him."

Berean Literal Bible
And again, when He brings the Firstborn into the world, He says: "And let all God's angels worship Him."

New American Standard Bible
And when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says, "AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM."

King James Bible
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
When He again brings His firstborn into the world, He says, And all God's angels must worship Him.

International Standard Version
And again, when he brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him."

NET Bible
But when he again brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all the angels of God worship him!"

New Heart English Bible
And again, when he brings in the firstborn into the world he says, "Let all the angels of God worship him."

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Again, when he brings The Firstborn into the universe, he says, “All the Angels of God shall worship him.�

GOD'S WORD® Translation
When God was about to send his firstborn Son into the world, he said, "All of God's angels must worship him."

New American Standard 1977
And when He again brings the first-born into the world, He says,
“AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM.�

Jubilee Bible 2000
And again, when he brought in the firstbegotten into the world, he said, And let all the angels of God worship him.

King James 2000 Bible
And again, when he brings the firstbegotten into the world, he says, And let all the angels of God worship him.

American King James Version
And again, when he brings in the first-begotten into the world, he said, And let all the angels of God worship him.

American Standard Version
And when he again bringeth in the firstborn into the world he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Darby Bible Translation
and again, when he brings in the firstborn into the habitable world, he says, And let all God's angels worship him.

English Revised Version
And when he again bringeth in the firstborn into the world he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Webster's Bible Translation
And again, when he bringeth in the first-begotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Weymouth New Testament
But speaking of the time when He once more brings His Firstborn into the world, He says, "And let all God's angels worship Him."

World English Bible
Again, when he brings in the firstborn into the world he says, "Let all the angels of God worship him."

What is the correct translation of Hebrews 1:6?

[onewithhim]

Yes, Greek word "proskuneo" can be used to...

Can be used to refer to ....

Yes, to Heb 1:6 and also John 4:23.

If you are saying that thee Greek word can refer to b]Heb 1:6[/b] and also John 4:23, thatnis correct. So?

It means a worship to God Jesus and God the Father.

No it doesn't

Yes, Jesus is God and He is not a creation, else the angels who worship him must be guilty of idolatry, and God the author of that idolatry, who commanded those angels to worship Christ.

It looks like you still don't understand all the meanings of "worship." There is worship given to Almighty God and then
there is worship to others in high places but that "worship" has a meaning of homage and deep respect. People pay homage to authorities, kings, governors, judges, etc. But they're not worshipping them as God Almighty. So God was not telling anyone to worship Christ as God Almighty. Just to pay him homage as a powerful important individual, but not God.

Yes that is correct, but why did Thayer define worship/homage render to God and Christ. Without comma as to heavenly beings, and etc.
Your point should be more clear if Thayer separates the two.
So I understand as it would mean the same use of worship for God and Christ.

NT:4352 proskuneoo, proskunoo;
a. of homage shown to men of superior rank: absolutely, Matt 20:20
b. of homage rendered to God and the ascended Christ, to heavenly beings, and to demons: John 4:20
(from Thayer's Greek Lexicon)

So your Thayer's Greek Lexicon states that worship, or, homage, can be rendered to demons, and that is a reality today with all the Satanic cults. So now do you get the meanings of "worship"? Given to demons it is not being rendered to God Almighty, yet still is called "worship." So there it means "homage." Worship as God Almighty goes to the one true God (John 17:3). Read your Lexicon once more.

[Capbook]

Yes, Greek word "proskuneo" can be used to...

Can be used to refer to ....

Yes, to Heb 1:6 and also John 4:23.

If you are saying that thee Greek word can refer to b]Heb 1:6[/b] and also John 4:23, thatnis correct. So?

It means a worship to God Jesus and God the Father.

No it doesn't

Yes, Jesus is God and He is not a creation, else the angels who worship him must be guilty of idolatry, and God the author of that idolatry, who commanded those angels to worship Christ.

It looks like you still don't understand all the meanings of "worship." There is worship given to Almighty God and then
there is worship to others in high places but that "worship" has a meaning of homage and deep respect. People pay homage to authorities, kings, governors, judges, etc. But they're not worshipping them as God Almighty. So God was not telling anyone to worship Christ as God Almighty. Just to pay him homage as a powerful important individual, but not God.

Yes that is correct, but why did Thayer define worship/homage render to God and Christ. Without comma as to heavenly beings, and etc.
Your point should be more clear if Thayer separates the two.
So I understand as it would mean the same use of worship for God and Christ.

NT:4352 proskuneoo, proskunoo;
a. of homage shown to men of superior rank: absolutely, Matt 20:20
b. of homage rendered to God and the ascended Christ, to heavenly beings, and to demons: John 4:20
(from Thayer's Greek Lexicon)

So your Thayer's Greek Lexicon states that worship, or, homage, can be rendered to demons, and that is a reality today with all the Satanic cults. So now do you get the meanings of "worship"? Given to demons it is not being rendered to God Almighty, yet still is called "worship." So there it means "homage." Worship as God Almighty goes to the one true God (John 17:3). Read your Lexicon once more.

Homage or worship, my point is rendered to both God and the ascended Christ. That means the same kind of worship/homage for both of them, as Thayer define it.

[Capbook]

Yes, Greek word "proskuneo" can be used to...

Can be used to refer to ....

Yes, to Heb 1:6 and also John 4:23.

If you are saying that thee Greek word can refer to b]Heb 1:6[/b] and also John 4:23, thatnis correct. So?

It means a worship to God Jesus and God the Father.

No it doesn't

Yes, Jesus is God and He is not a creation, else the angels who worship him must be guilty of idolatry, and God the author of that idolatry, who commanded those angels to worship Christ.

It looks like you still don't understand all the meanings of "worship." There is worship given to Almighty God and then
there is worship to others in high places but that "worship" has a meaning of homage and deep respect. People pay homage to authorities, kings, governors, judges, etc. But they're not worshipping them as God Almighty. So God was not telling anyone to worship Christ as God Almighty. Just to pay him homage as a powerful important individual, but not God.

Yes that is correct, but why did Thayer define worship/homage render to God and Christ. Without comma as to heavenly beings, and etc.
Your point should be more clear if Thayer separates the two.
So I understand as it would mean the same use of worship for God and Christ.

NT:4352 proskuneoo, proskunoo;
a. of homage shown to men of superior rank: absolutely, Matt 20:20
b. of homage rendered to God and the ascended Christ, to heavenly beings, and to demons: John 4:20
(from Thayer's Greek Lexicon)

So your Thayer's Greek Lexicon states that worship, or, homage, can be rendered to demons, and that is a reality today with all the Satanic cults. So now do you get the meanings of "worship"? Given to demons it is not being rendered to God Almighty, yet still is called "worship." So there it means "homage." Worship as God Almighty goes to the one true God (John 17:3). Read your Lexicon once more.

Homage or worship, my point is rendered to both God and the ascended Christ. That means the same kind of worship/homage for both of them, as Thayer define it.

[onewithhim]

Can be used to refer to ....

Yes, to Heb 1:6 and also John 4:23.

If you are saying that thee Greek word can refer to b]Heb 1:6[/b] and also John 4:23, thatnis correct. So?

It means a worship to God Jesus and God the Father.

No it doesn't

Yes, Jesus is God and He is not a creation, else the angels who worship him must be guilty of idolatry, and God the author of that idolatry, who commanded those angels to worship Christ.

It looks like you still don't understand all the meanings of "worship." There is worship given to Almighty God and then
there is worship to others in high places but that "worship" has a meaning of homage and deep respect. People pay homage to authorities, kings, governors, judges, etc. But they're not worshipping them as God Almighty. So God was not telling anyone to worship Christ as God Almighty. Just to pay him homage as a powerful important individual, but not God.

Yes that is correct, but why did Thayer define worship/homage render to God and Christ. Without comma as to heavenly beings, and etc.
Your point should be more clear if Thayer separates the two.
So I understand as it would mean the same use of worship for God and Christ.

NT:4352 proskuneoo, proskunoo;
a. of homage shown to men of superior rank: absolutely, Matt 20:20
b. of homage rendered to God and the ascended Christ, to heavenly beings, and to demons: John 4:20
(from Thayer's Greek Lexicon)

So your Thayer's Greek Lexicon states that worship, or, homage, can be rendered to demons, and that is a reality today with all the Satanic cults. So now do you get the meanings of "worship"? Given to demons it is not being rendered to God Almighty, yet still is called "worship." So there it means "homage." Worship as God Almighty goes to the one true God (John 17:3). Read your Lexicon once more.

Homage or worship, my point is rendered to both God and the ascended Christ. That means the same kind of worship/homage for both of them, as Thayer define it.

Thayer is wrong. No one can equal Jehovah, the Father, because He is the Almighty, the only true God. Therefore we worship Him as God Almighty and His Son we "worship" with respect, admiration, and love, but not as God.