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[Capbook]

Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?

Luk 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment

[Capbook]

Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?

Luk 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment

No, Christians are not under the Mosaic law and do not have to keep a weekly Sabbath . That system was in place until the death of Christ, after that, for born again Christians and all that follow Christ , every day of the week is "The Lords day".


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[rstrats]

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Not keeping the Lord's Day is still a sin, but sin no longer affects our salvation after the death of Christ.


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How can not keeping the Lord's Day [7th day of the week] be a sin and not affect salvation?

[JehovahsWitness]

Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?

Luk 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment

No, Christians are not under the Mosaic law and do not have to keep a weekly Sabbath . That system was in place until the death of Christ, after that, for born again Christians and all that follow Christ , every day of the week is "The Lords day".


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Did the apostle Paul observed the Sabbath as a Christian?
viewtopic.php?p=1153393#p1153393

Are the "they" in Luke 23:56 not Christians? Are they not followers of Christ?

They were disciples of Christ but the "Christian" church ( which replaced the Jewish system of worship) was not established until Pentecost 33 CE about five weeks after Christs death and resurrection. The end of the period of God’s special favor to the Jews came 3 1/2 years later (half a biblical week) in 36 C.E. (Dan 9:27a)

[myth-one.com]

Not keeping the Lord's Day is still a sin, but sin no longer affects our salvation after the death of Christ.

How can not keeping the Lord's Day [7th day of the week] be a sin and not affect salvation?

Because sin no longer determines our salvation. That was under the Old Testament Covenant. That is, the wages of sin is death.

But under the New Testament Covenant, belief in Jesus is the determining factor:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

We are now under the New Testament Covenant:

In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. (Hebrews 8:13)

Once believers gain everlasting life, we can never die. So the wages of our sins (death) becomes meaningless. And we do not gain everlasting life by being without sin. We gain everlasting life by believing and accepting the gift of God.

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (Romans 6:14)

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So not keeping the Sabbath is a sin. But doing so does not affect one's salvation.

[nawlens]

[Replying to Capbook in post #10]

In Acts 21. The Jews were accusing Paul of "apostasy," or going from, and totally abandoning, Mosaic and Judaic law to the New Covenant.  He wasn't calling for a total abandonment, only a few things like sacrifices were forbidden.  Christian Jews were allowed to continue in many of their Jewish customs, traditions, and festivals.  That shows that apostasy IS NOT a partial abandonment but a complete abandonment of all Jewish customs and traditions.

IOW - The Sabbath was meant for the Jewish nation and that's it! Since the crucifixion, Christians and Jewish believers as well are not bound to the Sabbath, they can worship whatever day they like.

[rstrats]

[quote=nawlens

IOW - The Sabbath was meant for the Jewish nation and that's it! Since the crucifixion, Christians and Jewish believers as well are not bound to the Sabbath, they can worship whatever day they like.
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So, would you say that it's perfectly fine with the supreme being to labor 7 days a week, 365 days a year, with no days of rest?

[JehovahsWitness]

So, would you say that it's perfectly fine with the supreme being to labor 7 days a week, 365 days a year, with no days of rest?

For some in impovershed nations they need to work every day just to eat and feed their families. The new Christian system is not governed by law but by principle. Jesus told his followers to seek the kingdom first and love God before all else and TRUSTS us to make good and wise decisions as to what we do with our time.



JW

[myth-one.com]

So, would you say that it's perfectly fine with the supreme being to labor 7 days a week, 365 days a year, with no days of rest?

For some in impovershed nations they need to work every day just to eat and feed their families. The new Christian system is not governed by law but by principle. Jesus told his followers to seek the kingdom first and love God before all else and TRUSTS us to make good and wise decisions as to what we do with our time.

JW

A Sabbath is a period of rest following six previous equal periods of work. The periods are not always equal to a day:

Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye come into the land which I give you, then shall the land keep a sabbath unto the Lord. Six years thou shalt sow thy field, and six years thou shalt prune thy vineyard, and gather in the fruit thereof; But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the Lord: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard. (Leviticus 25:2-4)

The Sabbath defined above for farmland is to sow and harvest the land for six years, then let it rest the seventh year. If one performed a study today, this would probably be discovered to be the most productive method to farm land.

Much land has been ruined in the past by over farming. Today we add fertilizers to artificially keep land productive.

Impoverished nations would be better served by dividing farmland into seven sections and resting a different section once every seven years.

[rstrats]

So, would you say that it's perfectly fine with the supreme being to labor 7 days a week, 365 days a year, with no days of rest?

For some in impovershed nations they need to work every day just to eat and feed their families. The new Christian system is not governed by law but by principle. Jesus told his followers to seek the kingdom first and love God before all else and TRUSTS us to make good and wise decisions as to what we do with our time.

JW

A Sabbath is a period of rest following six previous equal periods of work. The periods are not always equal to a day:

Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye come into the land which I give you, then shall the land keep a sabbath unto the Lord. Six years thou shalt sow thy field, and six years thou shalt prune thy vineyard, and gather in the fruit thereof; But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the Lord: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard. (Leviticus 25:2-4)

The Sabbath defined above for farmland is to sow and harvest the land for six years, then let it rest the seventh year. If one performed a study today, this would probably be discovered to be the most productive method to farm land.

Much land has been ruined in the past by over farming. Today we add fertilizers to artificially keep land productive.

Impoverished nations would be better served by dividing farmland into seven sections and resting a different section once every seven years.

re: "Impoverished nations would be better served by dividing farmland into seven sections and resting a different section once every seven years.

I'm probably missing something, but I'm having a problem seeing how that would work.

[The Tanager]

You've said that, "In v. 11, he says one needn't observe physical circumcision (and the Jewish Christians didn't require it or Sabbath-keeping of the Gentile Christians in Acts 15 either)." If they needn't observe Sabbath-keeping in Acts 15, but why in the next chapter 16 verses 13-15, on Sabbath day there was preaching, conversion and results to baptism of the family of Lydia.

Because while one needn’t observe it, one can observe it and great good can come from doing so.