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I've seen God called by different names. As much as I know, the consonants for his name are given in the OT, but the vowels are missing.

Does anyone here claim to know what the vowels are and thus the proper pronunciation of God's name. Or is it a mystery that will remain unknown?

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:40 am Image
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You already answered yes here, referring to blindness of (fleshly Israel) in Romans 11:25.
Yes, exactly fleshly Israel was indeed replaced because if their blindlness. So, when Paul spoke of "all Israel" being saved Paul was referring to the REPLACEMENT , namely "SPIRITUAL Israel"

Conclusion, all spiritual Israel will be saved; all fleshly Israel will not (because of their blindness)


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The verse says, "shall be saved" in the future yet. Not yet replaced, not yet being saved.

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Capbook wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:33 am The verse says, "shall be saved" ...
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Yes refering not to fleshly Israel but to SPIRITUAL Israel, they (SPIRITUAL Israel) shall all be saved.
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:48 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:33 am The verse says, "shall be saved" ...
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Yes refering not to fleshly Israel but to SPIRITUAL Israel, they (SPIRITUAL Israel) shall all be saved.
Yes, but no replacement yet.

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Capbook wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:30 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:48 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:33 am The verse says, "shall be saved" ...
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Yes refering not to fleshly Israel but to SPIRITUAL Israel, they (SPIRITUAL Israel) shall all be saved.
Yes, but no replacement yet.

Fleshly Israel was replaced as God's people by spiritual Israel when Jesus died.
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:32 pm
Capbook wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:30 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:48 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:33 am The verse says, "shall be saved" ...
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Yes refering not to fleshly Israel but to SPIRITUAL Israel, they (SPIRITUAL Israel) shall all be saved.
Yes, but no replacement yet.

Fleshly Israel was replaced as God's people by spiritual Israel when Jesus died.
No mention of replacement in Romans 11:25-26.

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Capbook wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:03 pm No mention of replacement in Romans 11:25-26.
ROMANS 11:19b, 20

You will say, then: “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” That is true! For their lack of faith, they were broken off
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:49 am Image
Capbook wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:03 pm No mention of replacement in Romans 11:25-26.
ROMANS 11:19b, 20

You will say, then: “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” That is true! For their lack of faith, they were broken off
Fleshly Israel have not yet standest by faith yet. Romans 11:25-26 is still in the future, replacement will not take place then.

Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear

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WILL "ALL ISRAEL" BE SAVED?

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The "you" (thou) of Romans 11:20 is the gentille Christians not natural Jews. See Romans 11 v 13 which reads : "Now I speak to you who are people of the nations"
Paul clearly spoke of " branches " of the fleshly nation of Israel as already having been broken off at the time of writing and gentile (wild) branches grafted in, so that change had already taken place in the first century.


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