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God's Copulation With Mary

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Question 1: Would Christians still be worshipping the sons of Greco-Roman gods, had not the New Testament provided them with a different son to worship? Whether God impregnated Mary to satisfy Christians' urge for a son to worship, Replacement Theology, or impregnated Mary to satisfy his urge for a son, Sire Theology, I dare not presume.

Question 2: Why did God sexually impregnate Mary's uterus? This assumes God assigned a sex to the fetus during impregnation.

Holy Scripture: Luke 1:35 " The spirit of God will come upon you, and the power of the highest will overshadow you, therefore the holy child will be called the son of God. " Fascinating!

Question 3: What was Mary's position as God assumed his? Was Mary prone or kneeling? The grammar seems to imply she was prone! I think we can safely assume she wasn't upside down.

Question 4: Was Mary's faith a stimulant in divine copulation? Would the power have overshadowed her without faith? Did her faith evoke the sacred union? Song of Solomon 4:7 " You are beautiful, My love ..." Was there any Song of Solomon stimulation going on?

Question 5: What distinguishes Mary and God's sacred union from the sacred union of the Greco-Roman gods with their women? Sacred is sacred!

Question 6: Why must the offspring of Mary and God, be less fictional than the offspring of the Greco-Roman gods with their women? If its ridiculous for the latter, it is ridiculous for the former.

Question 7: Why do you consider the union of the Greco-Roman gods with their women as dirty ( abominable ), but the union of God with Mary as clean ( holy )?

Question 8: What assurances did Joseph have that Mary's other children were his alone, and not God's? " Jealousy is a rage in man that will seek vengeance! " Proverbs 6:4


Question 9: Would it have been sin if Mary sought God for a reunion? If she desired the power to overshadow her yet again!

Question 10: Is it possible that the entire book of Song of Solomon is about God and Mary?

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Re: God's Copulation With Mary

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Song of Solomon 4:5 " Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies."

Most Christians interpret this verse to mean the Church's breasts satisfy the Lord. The breasts are firm, even, and have perfect contour. Why can't this reference Mary and God? Surely, Mary was a sacred vessel for the incarnation!


As such, we must assume Mary's breasts are for the Catholic and Protestant Church. Her nipples nurse them both. One for each, since Catholics and Protestants would hardly suckle the same teat! Yes dear brethren, this is the correct interpretion of scripture.


Behold brethren, consider 4:4 " Thy neck is like the tower of David ..." The Church didn't birth the son of David! This proves Mary is the bride of God in Song of Solomon. Mary birthed Jesus, the son of David. Hallelujah for this revelation! Mary's neck is like the tower of David; her neck is strong for the Davidic Monarchy! So strong " there hang a thousand bucklers, all shields of mighty men!" Certainly, this speaks of our apologists, the shields of our faith. Hallelujah! Who defend David's monarchy, the Christ! Hallelujah!
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Song of Solomon 5:3 " I have removed my clothes, why should I put them back on? "

This verse describes Mary's eagerness to breed with God. Mary not only submitted to God's desire to produce a hybrid with her, but she longed for the union as well.

Song of Solomon 7:10 " I am my lover's and He desires me. " Mary clearly understood that God was attracted to her. God is said to be attracted to her physique. 7:1 " The curves of your thighs are like jewels." Mary aroused the sacred union.

Yes brethren, lets bow our heads and pray: Praise be to God, who put a bun in Mary's oven! Praise be to Mary, who eagerly did her duty!
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Luke 11:27 " blessed is the womb that bore you and the breasts that nursed you."

Obviously the woman was thinking of Song of Solomon 7:8b " let your breasts be like clusters of the vine..." Plump and fat like clusters of grapes!

Consider Song of Solomon 1:13 " a bundle of myrrh is my lover to me, that lies all night between my breasts." Myrrh is wet and sticky. It was a welcome presence between her breasts. This mystically refers to an exhibition before the actual conception.


Lets bow our heads and pray: Praise be to God, the Father of Jesus. Praise be to Mary, the Mother of Jesus.
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Luke 1:48b " Behold, all generations will call me blessed."


Indeed, Mary is blessed! Consider Song of Solomon 1:2 " let Him kiss me with the kisses of His mouth, for your lover is better than wine." Hallelujah, Mary describes God's kisses as intoxicating.


Let us pray: Mary, you are blessed. Sweet Mother of Jesus!
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Genesis 6:2 " The sons of God saw the daughters of Adam ( Hebrew has Adam not Ish, man) that they were beautiful."

Well nothing compares to Mary! Song of Solomon 6:9b " the daughters saw her and called her blessed." Luke 1:42 " ...blessed are you among women..."


The sons of God produced the Nephilim with their women, Genesis 6:4, but God and Mary produced a hybrid better than the Nephilim.


Hallelujah! We have a rational religion. Praise be to God for Christianity!
Hallelujah! We have an intelligent religion. Hallelujah! Hallelujah Hallelujah!
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I know of no Christian theology that has YHWH (Jehovah) God copulating* with any human.
Copulation being engaging in sexual intercourse as in the physical penetrative of a vagina with a penis
Yozavan wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:13 pm God's Copulation With Mary
There is nothing in the bible canon that indicates Mary the mother of Jesus copulated with God.

You are perhaps confusing the bible with pagan Greek and Roman theology.
Yozavan wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:13 pm
Question 5: What distinguishes Mary and God's sacred union from the sacred union of the Greco-Roman gods with their women? Sacred is sacred!
There was no materialization or physical manifestation of YHWH (Almighty God) and there was no sexual intercourse involved.


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Yozavan wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:13 pm
Question 2: Why did God sexually impregnate Mary's uterus? This assumes God assigned a sex to the fetus during impregnation.

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BY sexually I presume you mean "assigning a sex/gender" to the conceived child. Scripturally this was to fulfill prophecy of a promised (male) Messiah.

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Holy Scripture: Luke 1:35 " The spirit of God will come upon you, and the power of the highest will overshadow you, therefore the holy child will be called the son of God. " Fascinating!

Question 3: What was Mary's posture as God assumed his?

POSTURE :


The position in which someone holds their body when standing or sitting
Nobody knows the answer to this question. God is often depicted as "sitting" on a throne but being a spirit, we cannot take that literally. Whether she was standing or sitting at the précise moment when she was impregnated, even she arguably could not possibly know.

It seems reasonable to presume being young Mary had quite good posture

Yozavan wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:13 pm Question 4: .... Would the power have overshadowed her without faith? Did her faith evoke the sacred union?
One can only speculate on this but arguably God chose a young woman of faith as she would was to be entrusted with a very precious life.
Yozavan wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:13 pm

Question 9: Would it have been sin if Mary sought God for a reunion? If she desired the power to overshadow her yet again!

All believers humbly seek holy spirit to live lives that please God, so there is no sin in requesting holy spirit. That said for Mary to specifically ask for holy spirit To concieve a second child supernaturally would have been presumptuous on her part and thus a sin.
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Yozavan wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:13 pm
Question 6: Why must the offspring of Mary and God, be less fictional than the offspring of the Greco-Roman gods with their women? If its ridiculous for the latter, it is ridiculous for the former.
If we accept the premise of the existence of a omnipotent God, then both are logically possible; whether one accepts the possible as actually having happened depends on supporting evidence and /or reliable testimony.




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