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Jesus is God - is Jesus the bridegroom?

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Blog post by someone: https://alexiscarucci.com/2022/05/18/je ... ridegroom/

Some relevant NT passages snipped from the blog post
Jesus referred to Himself as the bridegroom when He talked about why His disciples didn’t fast (Mark 2:18 – 20). Likewise, John, the Baptist, presented himself as the bridegroom’s friend and declared that the bride belongs to the bridegroom (John 3:29). The bride of Christ or the church consists of the entire body of believers throughout the ages, all who have received salvation by grace through faith. The New Jerusalem is also referred to as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband and alludes to Christ as the bridegroom (Revelation 21:2, 9 – 10).
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https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV
For your Maker is your husband—
the Lord Almighty is his name—
the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
he is called the God of all the earth.
I think the union between man and God that was restablished in Jesus is quite clear. When we put our faith in Jesus we are accepting that what Jesus did has united God and man. It took God to unite what man tore apart.

So, Jesus is God or is Jesus some rando that calls himself the bridegroom?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Dear Wroth,

The answer is a resounding YES!

But you should always remember that there are those who adamately deny the divinity of Jesus Christ based on their strictly private interpretations.

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Wootah wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:57 am [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #47]

OK who is the Father's bride ... ?
ISAIAH 54:5

“For your Grand Maker is as your husband, Jehovah of armies is his name, And the Holy One of Israel is your Repurchaser
Wootah wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:57 am ... who is Jesus bride?
2 CORINTHIAN 1:1; 11:2

Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus through God’s will, and Timothy+ our brother, to the congregation of God that is in Corinth, including all the holy ones who are in all Achaʹia: ... 2For I am jealous over you with a godly jealousy, for I personally promised you in marriage to one husband that I might present you as a chaste virgin to the Christ
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In your own words please explain it to me.
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Wootah wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:10 am [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #52]

In your own words please explain it to me.
Is God explaining in his own words not good enough for you? My words mean nothing, the word of GOD, has spoken. If Almighty God clear enough for you, there is no human than can be.

Please do not ask me to contradict 2 Timothy 3:16


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JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:53 am
Wootah wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:10 am [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #52]

In your own words please explain it to me.
Is God explaining in his own words not good enough for you? My words mean nothing, the word of GOD, has spoken. If Almighty God clear enough for you, there is no human than can be.

Please do not ask me to contradict 2 Timothy 3:16


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It's a debating website. if you are posting on behalf of God that's news to me. I think any scripture should be explained by the person posting it.
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Wootah wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:11 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:53 am
Wootah wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:10 am [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #52]

In your own words please explain it to me.
Is God explaining in his own words not good enough for you? My words mean nothing, the word of GOD, has spoken. If Almighty God clear enough for you, there is no human than can be.

Please do not ask me to contradict 2 Timothy 3:16


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It's a debating website. if you are posting on behalf of God that's news to me. I think any scripture should be explained by the person posting it.
Take that up with God, his own words are clear enough for those that have ears to hear (see 2 Timothy 3v16 for further on this point).


Peace be upon you,

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:59 pm
Wootah wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:57 am [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #47]

OK who is the Father's bride ... ?
ISAIAH 54:5

“For your Grand Maker is as your husband, Jehovah of armies is his name, And the Holy One of Israel is your Repurchaser
Wootah wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:57 am ... who is Jesus bride?
2 CORINTHIAN 1:1; 11:2

Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus through God’s will, and Timothy+ our brother, to the congregation of God that is in Corinth, including all the holy ones who are in all Achaʹia: ... 2For I am jealous over you with a godly jealousy, for I personally promised you in marriage to one husband that I might present you as a chaste virgin to the Christ
Do you mean there will be two marriages?

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Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:33 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:59 pm
Wootah wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:57 am [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #47]

OK who is the Father's bride ... ?
ISAIAH 54:5

“For your Grand Maker is as your husband, Jehovah of armies is his name, And the Holy One of Israel is your Repurchaser
Wootah wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:57 am ... who is Jesus bride?
2 CORINTHIAN 1:1; 11:2

Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus through God’s will, and Timothy+ our brother, to the congregation of God that is in Corinth, including all the holy ones who are in all Achaʹia: ... 2For I am jealous over you with a godly jealousy, for I personally promised you in marriage to one husband that I might present you as a chaste virgin to the Christ
Do you mean there will be two marriages?
The scriptures speak, what I mean is irrelevant.

Have a blessed day

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:54 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:33 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:59 pm
Wootah wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:57 am [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #47]

OK who is the Father's bride ... ?
ISAIAH 54:5

“For your Grand Maker is as your husband, Jehovah of armies is his name, And the Holy One of Israel is your Repurchaser
Wootah wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:57 am ... who is Jesus bride?
2 CORINTHIAN 1:1; 11:2

Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus through God’s will, and Timothy+ our brother, to the congregation of God that is in Corinth, including all the holy ones who are in all Achaʹia: ... 2For I am jealous over you with a godly jealousy, for I personally promised you in marriage to one husband that I might present you as a chaste virgin to the Christ
Do you mean there will be two marriages?
The scriptures speak, what I mean is irrelevant.

Have a blessed day

JW
May I ask, how to reconcile the two verses without explanation then.

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Capbook wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:18 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:54 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:33 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:59 pm
Wootah wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:57 am [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #47]

OK who is the Father's bride ... ?
ISAIAH 54:5

“For your Grand Maker is as your husband, Jehovah of armies is his name, And the Holy One of Israel is your Repurchaser
Wootah wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:57 am ... who is Jesus bride?
2 CORINTHIAN 1:1; 11:2

Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus through God’s will, and Timothy+ our brother, to the congregation of God that is in Corinth, including all the holy ones who are in all Achaʹia: ... 2For I am jealous over you with a godly jealousy, for I personally promised you in marriage to one husband that I might present you as a chaste virgin to the Christ
Do you mean there will be two marriages?
The scriptures speak, what I mean is irrelevant.

Have a blessed day

JW
May I ask, how to reconcile the two verses without explanation then.

Yes, you can. I'm sure God will show you in due time.



Have a great day,


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