Jesus is God - is Jesus the bridegroom?

[Wootah]

Blog post by someone: https://alexiscarucci.com/2022/05/18/je ... ridegroom/

Some relevant NT passages snipped from the blog post

Jesus referred to Himself as the bridegroom when He talked about why His disciples didn’t fast (Mark 2:18 – 20). Likewise, John, the Baptist, presented himself as the bridegroom’s friend and declared that the bride belongs to the bridegroom (John 3:29). The bride of Christ or the church consists of the entire body of believers throughout the ages, all who have received salvation by grace through faith. The New Jerusalem is also referred to as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband and alludes to Christ as the bridegroom (Revelation 21:2, 9 – 10).

Some relevant OT passages
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV

For your Maker is your husband—
the Lord Almighty is his name—
the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
he is called the God of all the earth.

I think the union between man and God that was restablished in Jesus is quite clear. When we put our faith in Jesus we are accepting that what Jesus did has united God and man. It took God to unite what man tore apart.

So, Jesus is God or is Jesus some rando that calls himself the bridegroom?

[EBA]

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If their are "children of the kingdom" then their father must be the king.  
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Why make such an interpretation, when it is not what the Bible teaches and Jesus tells the opposite (he is not the Father, because the Father is greater than him)?

Well it was my attempt to help you open up your understanding; unfortunately it failed.

And yes it is what the Bible teaches, you just don’t get it.

Also, had you read post #21 carefully you would have noticed where I said:

I do believe he is God. Just not "God the Father."

I am well aware that Jesus Christ is not “God the Father” and that the Father is greater than the son.

Peace.

[MissKate13]

[Replying to EBA in post #31]

You are exactly right EBA!

You wrote “I am well aware that Jesus Christ is not “God the Father” and that the Father is greater than the son.”

Jesus is not the Father, and the Father is greater than the Son. However, Jesus is Jehovah God!

Blessings!
Kate

[EBA]

For thy Maker [is] thine husband; the LORD (yehôvâh) of hosts [is] his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. (Isa 54:5)

Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. (1Ti 2:6)

Thus saith the LORD (yehôvâh) the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD (yehôvâh) of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is] no God. (Isa 44:6)

[Wootah]

1. Some titles are shared by both the Father and the Son; this does not make them equal in age , rank or authority.

2. Jesus refers to himself as "the bridegroom" (of the anointed congregation of Christians ) not "the husband" (of the nation if Israel).

Then who is he the bride groom to?

[EBA]

[Replying to EBA in post #31]

You are exactly right EBA!

You wrote “I am well aware that Jesus Christ is not “God the Father” and that the Father is greater than the son.”

Jesus is not the Father, and the Father is greater than the Son. However, Jesus is Jehovah God!

Blessings!
Kate

Hi Kate,

To be clear he is not "God the Father" but he is our Father as I stated in Post # 27.

However, Jesus is Jehovah God!

He certainly is.

Peace.

[Wootah]

[Replying to EBA in post #31]

You are exactly right EBA!

You wrote “I am well aware that Jesus Christ is not “God the Father” and that the Father is greater than the son.”

Jesus is not the Father, and the Father is greater than the Son. However, Jesus is Jehovah God!

Blessings!
Kate

Hi Kate,

To be clear he is not "God the Father" but he is our Father as I stated in Post # 27.

However, Jesus is Jehovah God!

He certainly is.

Peace.

I don't think Jesus is the Father. Where is that coming from? Which belief system or understanding?

[Wootah]

Blog post by someone: https://alexiscarucci.com/2022/05/18/je ... ridegroom/

Some relevant NT passages snipped from the blog post

Jesus referred to Himself as the bridegroom when He talked about why His disciples didn’t fast (Mark 2:18 – 20). Likewise, John, the Baptist, presented himself as the bridegroom’s friend and declared that the bride belongs to the bridegroom (John 3:29). The bride of Christ or the church consists of the entire body of believers throughout the ages, all who have received salvation by grace through faith. The New Jerusalem is also referred to as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband and alludes to Christ as the bridegroom (Revelation 21:2, 9 – 10).

Some relevant OT passages
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV

For your Maker is your husband—
the Lord Almighty is his name—
the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
he is called the God of all the earth.

I think the union between man and God that was re-established in Jesus is quite clear. When we put our faith in Jesus we are accepting that what Jesus did has united God and man. It took God to unite what man tore apart.

So, Jesus is God or is Jesus some rando that calls himself the bridegroom?

Can I also add to this argument that the OT quote is from Isaiah 54 which comes after the Messianic prophesy of Isaiah 53.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV

Jesus the Messiah reunites us with Him.

Now can someone address Isaiah 54?

For your maker is your husband. > Jesus is the husband of the church. Jesus is therefore the maker.
The Lord Almighty is his name > Jesus is Lord Almighty.
The Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer > Jesus is our redeemer, pays our ransom, Jesus is the Holy One of Israel.
He is called the God of all the earth > Jesus is God of all the earth.

Can someone who disagrees actually debate the topic?

[1213]

Jesus is not the Father, and the Father is greater than the Son. However, Jesus is Jehovah God!

In that case, who do you think is the second lord in this scripture?

Jesus responded, as he taught in the temple, "How is it that the scribes say that the Christ is the son of David? For David himself said in the Holy Spirit, 'The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand, Until I make your enemies the footstool of your feet.' Therefore David himself calls him Lord, so how can he be his son?" The common people heard him gladly.
Mark 12:35-37

[MissKate13]

[Replying to EBA in post #31]

You are exactly right EBA!

You wrote “I am well aware that Jesus Christ is not “God the Father” and that the Father is greater than the son.”

Jesus is not the Father, and the Father is greater than the Son. However, Jesus is Jehovah God!

Blessings!
Kate

Hi Kate,

To be clear he is not "God the Father" but he is our Father as I stated in Post # 27.

However, Jesus is Jehovah God!

He certainly is.

Peace.

Agree!

[EBA]

For thy Maker [is] thine husband; the LORD (yehôvâh) of hosts [is] his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. (Isa 54:5)

Saying, Let [us] alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God. (Mar 1:24)

I [am] the LORD (yehôvâh), your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King. (Isa 43:15)

But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you; (Act 3:14)

Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell (hades), neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. (Act 2:27)

Peace.