O My Father
O my Father, thou that dwellest In the high and glorious -place,
When shall I regain thy presence and again behold thy face?
In thy holy habitation, Did my spirit once reside?
In my first primeval childhood, was I nurtured near thy side?
For a wise and glorious purpose Thou hast placed me here on earth
And with held the recollection Of my former friends and birth:
Yet off times a secret something Whispered , “You’re a stranger here”,
And I felt that I had wandered From a more exalted sphere.
I had learned to call theeFather, Thru thy Spirit. From on high,
But until the key of knowledge was restored I knew not why.
In the heav’ns are parents single?
No the thought makes reason stare!
Truth is reason; truth eternal Tells me I’ve a mother there.
When I leave this frail existence , When I lay this mortal by
Father, Mother, may I meet youIn your royal courts on high?
Then at length, when I have completed All you sent me forth to do,
With your mutual approbation Let me come and dwell with you.
The above beautiful poem unveils a mystery of god to the mortal understanding. It teaches mighty eternal truths. Indeed God is the father of all his children that have lived, now live or will yet live to exercise their God given agency to be tried and tested and by following christ “also overcome the world” and become “partakers of the divine nature” and to also to “become heirs and joint heirs with Christ to also receive all that the Father hath”
On this Easter Sunday let us all cherish and rejoice in the mighty atonement and resurrection provided by Jesus Christ as our great exemplar! He has provided the way that we in our resurrection will also receive a permanent resurrection or reuniting of our spirit body with a permanent body of flesh and bone as Christ has received.
God bless you all with the deep understanding of eternal things as promised by the Holy Ghost.
O MY FATHER!
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Post #21I believe Jesus the Messiah is God, in Romans 9:5 God's Word Translation.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 3:08 amThat is correct we believe in the Jesus that is God's son; you believe in another "Jesus" that is Almighty God.
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Post #22So you believe Jesus is "over" the Father?Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 3:58 amI believe Jesus the Messiah is God, in Romans 9:5 God's Word Translation.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 3:08 amThat is correct we believe in the Jesus that is God's son; you believe in another "Jesus" that is Almighty God.
5 The Messiah is descended from their ancestors according to his human nature. The Messiah is God over everything, forever blessed. Amen.
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Post #23No, the Father is also God over everything.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 4:39 amSo you believe Jesus is "over" the Father?Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 3:58 amI believe Jesus the Messiah is God, in Romans 9:5 God's Word Translation.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 3:08 amThat is correct we believe in the Jesus that is God's son; you believe in another "Jesus" that is Almighty God.
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Post #24Si the word "everything" excludes the Father , correct?
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Post #25Of course yes, as we believe they are equal.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 11:07 amSi the word "everything" excludes the Father , correct?
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Post #26So the word "everything" in that verse does NOT mean literally everything that exists : Correct?
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Post #27Yes, it excludes the Father as they are equal.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:53 amSo the word "everything" in that verse does NOT mean literally everything that exists : Correct?
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Post #28Or it excludes the Father because he is superior.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:54 amYes, it excludes the Father as they are equal.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:53 am
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Post #29They are equal, being both Divine or God.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:05 amOr it excludes the Father because he is superior.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:54 amYes, it excludes the Father as they are equal.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:53 am
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Post #30They are not equal.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:37 amThey are equal, being both Divine or God.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:05 amOr it excludes the Father because he is superior.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:54 amYes, it excludes the Father as they are equal.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:53 am
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