So Jesus is God, and not a created God. How could He be a God to everything was ever created if He is also a creation.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:36 amThe verse is saying Almight God made Jesus God (meanjng the One who created Jesus /The word ) gave the latter power over everything that was ever created.
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Jesus is God over everything created. Jesus was himself created (by Almighty God, YHWH the Father)
Because his Father the ALMIGHTY God gave him that position.
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Have you noticed that I addressed that verse a few times before? The NIV that says what you posted also has a footnote saying that it could also mean "Christ who is over all," leaving out the "God" part. I posted many versions that do not render that verse as saying that Christ is God over all. You are hanging your belief on a tenuous rendering of the one verse in Romans.Capbook wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 2:20 amSo Jesus is God, and not a created God. How could He be a God to everything was ever created if He is also a creation.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:36 amThe verse is saying Almight God made Jesus God (meanjng the One who created Jesus /The word ) gave the latter power over everything that was ever created.
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If Jesus is a creation why all angels commanded by the Father to worship Him (Jesus). Same worship the Father seeks, in John 4:23.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:26 amJesus is God over everything created. Jesus was himself created (by Almighty God, YHWH the Father)
Because his Father the ALMIGHTY God gave him that position.
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Yes, there are translation of Romans 9:5 that could led to different interpretation, just like 1 John 5:20. But there are clearer translations that lead us to understand them more fully.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 9:33 amHave you noticed that I addressed that verse a few times before? The NIV that says what you posted also has a footnote saying that it could also mean "Christ who is over all," leaving out the "God" part. I posted many versions that do not render that verse as saying that Christ is God over all. You are hanging your belief on a tenuous rendering of the one verse in Romans.Capbook wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 2:20 amSo Jesus is God, and not a created God. How could He be a God to everything was ever created if He is also a creation.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:36 amThe verse is saying Almight God made Jesus God (meanjng the One who created Jesus /The word ) gave the latter power over everything that was ever created.
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Je that is the case who are you implying your reading is the only one scripturally acceptable?
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It is more acceptable if we let the Bible interpret itself.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:59 amJe that is the case who are you implying your reading is the only one scripturally acceptable?
And also let lexicons, translations and commentaries assist for further study.
