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Does Hell Exist?

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The question for debate is does hell exist? If so, what does the Bible teach hell is?
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No hell is not real. It is a man made hoax.

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EBA wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 7:47 pm No hell is not real. It is a man made hoax.
And you know that because you died and didn't find it?

I could agree that it is man made, but not a hoax.
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1213 wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 11:47 pm
EBA wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 7:47 pm No hell is not real. It is a man made hoax.
And you know that because you died and didn't find it?

I could agree that it is man made, but not a hoax.
I believe hell is real.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
1 Cor 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Note that death and hell (the grave) are cast into the lake of fire and destroyed. They will no longer be. Death and the grave will be ended, never again to plague mankind. If all believers receive the gift of eternal life, and they lead a life without sin, then there can be no death or grave. They both cease. This second death of the lake of fire is what faith in Jesus will keep you from.

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Re: Does Hell Exist?

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Capbook wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 1:21 am I believe hell is real.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
1 Cor 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Note that death and hell (the grave) are cast into the lake of fire and destroyed. They will no longer be. Death and the grave will be ended, never again to plague mankind. If all believers receive the gift of eternal life, and they lead a life without sin, then there can be no death or grave. They both cease. This second death of the lake of fire is what faith in Jesus will keep you from.
The actual word for hell in Rev 20:14 is Hades and it is not the same as hell.

And death and Hades were thrown into the Lake of Fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:14 (Green's literal)

And the second death, or the fire lake is called Gehenna and also it can be called hell.
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1213 wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 11:47 pm
EBA wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 7:47 pm No hell is not real. It is a man made hoax.
And you know that because you died and didn't find it?

I could agree that it is man made, but not a hoax.
It is one of the biggest hoaxes of all time. If you agree that it is man-made why do you say it is not a hoax?

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Capbook wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 1:21 am
1213 wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 11:47 pm
EBA wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 7:47 pm No hell is not real. It is a man made hoax.
And you know that because you died and didn't find it?

I could agree that it is man made, but not a hoax.
I believe hell is real.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
1 Cor 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Note that death and hell (the grave) are cast into the lake of fire and destroyed. They will no longer be. Death and the grave will be ended, never again to plague mankind. If all believers receive the gift of eternal life, and they lead a life without sin, then there can be no death or grave. They both cease. This second death of the lake of fire is what faith in Jesus will keep you from.
You say that you believe a fiery hell is real? But then you note that "hell" is the grave. Can you explain the contradiction there?

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1213 wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 11:47 pm And you know that because you died and didn't find it?
No. Did you die and find it?

Anyone who believes that hell is a place of everlasting torment is lost and certainly does not understand scripture.

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Re: Does Hell Exist?

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onewithhim wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 4:43 pm
Capbook wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 1:21 am
1213 wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 11:47 pm
EBA wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 7:47 pm No hell is not real. It is a man made hoax.
And you know that because you died and didn't find it?

I could agree that it is man made, but not a hoax.
I believe hell is real.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
1 Cor 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Note that death and hell (the grave) are cast into the lake of fire and destroyed. They will no longer be. Death and the grave will be ended, never again to plague mankind. If all believers receive the gift of eternal life, and they lead a life without sin, then there can be no death or grave. They both cease. This second death of the lake of fire is what faith in Jesus will keep you from.
You say that you believe a fiery hell is real? But then you note that "hell" is the grave. Can you explain the contradiction there?
I mean lake of fire is real, that destroyed death and grave. That is the second death.
And ever the devil will be destroyed.
Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he [Jesus] also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

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Re: Does Hell Exist?

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1213 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 2:43 am
Capbook wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 1:21 am I believe hell is real.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
1 Cor 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Note that death and hell (the grave) are cast into the lake of fire and destroyed. They will no longer be. Death and the grave will be ended, never again to plague mankind. If all believers receive the gift of eternal life, and they lead a life without sin, then there can be no death or grave. They both cease. This second death of the lake of fire is what faith in Jesus will keep you from.
The actual word for hell in Rev 20:14 is Hades and it is not the same as hell.

And death and Hades were thrown into the Lake of Fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:14 (Green's literal)

And the second death, or the fire lake is called Gehenna and also it can be called hell.
Yes, I mean the Gehenna is real, that will destroy death and hades.

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Re: Does Hell Exist?

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Capbook wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:00 am
Yes, I mean the Gehenna is real, that will destroy death and hades.
Total destruction is real. The literal place was'just used by Jesus as a symbol of total destruction. Something can be real but not literal.
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