Debating Christianity and Religion

LittleNipper · Post by **LittleNipper** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:55 pm

onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:43 am [Replying to LittleNipper in post #639]

Nothing proves that Jesus is God.

The very fact of JESUS' GOODNESS is proof enough that JESUS is GOD according to JESUS' definition of GOOD. You clearly wish to uphold the JW organization's stance/propaganda and place Charles Russell above CHRIST who is Lord of ALL. Faith in the JWs practices, views, and leadership never saves anyone ------ but thanks for ignoring the post above. JESUS HIMSELF proves HE is GOD. By the way, who are the 144,000 according to the Holy Scriptures? You never did answer that one, and I'm sure I know why.

bob the baptist · Post by **bob the baptist** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:48 pm

LittleNipper · Post by **LittleNipper** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:21 pm

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Wed May 01, 2024 3:08 am

bob the baptist wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:48 pm
I am not JW. But as I understand it, JWs do not have belief in the trinity, that Jesus is God in the flesh and God in the Spirit. They can correct me, but simply put, they do not believe in the same God you and I do.

That is correct. We do not believe in your trinitarian god that became a human, was seen by thousand of people and died. We Jehovah's Witnesses believe in the One True God (YHWH) , the God of the bible.

You're welcome,

JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

Out website if you want more information about us: www.jw.org

bob the baptist · Post by **bob the baptist** » Wed May 01, 2024 5:28 am

JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:08 am
bob the baptist wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:48 pm
I am not JW. But as I understand it, JWs do not have belief in the trinity, that Jesus is God in the flesh and God in the Spirit. They can correct me, but simply put, they do not believe in the same God you and I do.
That is correct. We do not believe in your trinitarian god that became a human, was seen by thousand of people and died. We Jehovah's Witnesses believe in the One True God (YHWH) , the God of the bible.

You're welcome,

JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

Out website if you want more information about us: www.jw.org

That's what I was thinking, you're not claiming to be Christians. Thanks.

onewithhim · Post by **onewithhim** » Wed May 01, 2024 8:53 am

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Wed May 01, 2024 10:16 am

bob the baptist wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:28 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:08 am
bob the baptist wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:48 pm
I am not JW. But as I understand it, JWs do not have belief in the trinity, that Jesus is God in the flesh and God in the Spirit. They can correct me, but simply put, they do not believe in the same God you and I do.
That is correct. We do not believe in your trinitarian god that became a human, was seen by thousand of people and died. We Jehovah's Witnesses believe in the One True God (YHWH) , the God of the bible.

You're welcome,

JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

Out website if you want more information about us: www.jw.org
That's what I was thinking, you're not claiming to be Christians. Thanks.

Well you were thinking wrong. I presume you are happy to be corrected on this point too.. .

bob the baptist wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:28 am ...They can correct me ...

In any case I will takr you up on the first invitation and correct you. Jehovah's Witnesses not only claim to be Christians, we are Christians.

Again...you're welcome!

Capbook · Post by **Capbook** » Sat May 25, 2024 2:00 am

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Sat May 25, 2024 2:38 am

Capbook wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 2:00 am

1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit,(NKJV)
John 10:17-18
Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.(KJV)

Yes Jesus died; God [Almighty God] cannot die (see 1 Timothy 6:16 ). So Jesus cannot be Almighty God.

Capbook · Post by **Capbook** » Sat May 25, 2024 4:29 am

JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 2:38 am
Capbook wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 2:00 am

1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit,(NKJV)
John 10:17-18
Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.(KJV)

Yes Jesus died; God [Almighty God] cannot die (see 1 Timothy 6:16 ). So Jesus cannot be Almighty God.

We believe Jesus in dual nature, His flesh dies (human nature), take back His life (Divine nature)
As Barnes understand Jesus as Father's equal, Jesus is also Almighty.

Hebrews 1:3
It is to show his claims to our reverence as sent from God-the last and greatest of the messengers which God bas sent to man. But, then it is a description of him "as he actually is" - the incarnate Son of God; the equal of the Father in human flesh.
(from Barnes' Notes)