JESUS IS NOT JEHOVAH

[onewithhim]

What do you all say about the following scriptures?

PSALM 110: 1,2:

"The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord [the Messiah] is: 'Sit at my right hand until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.' The rod of your strength Jehovah will send out of Zion, saying 'God subduing in the midst of your enemies.'" (Young's literal translation; American Standard Bible; NWT)

Does this coincide with the belief that Jehovah and Jesus are the same Person? Do you think they are according to this?


ISAIAH 61: 1,2:

"The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me [the Messiah], for the reason that Jehovah has anointed me to tell the good news to the meek ones. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to those taken captive and the wide opening of the eyes even to the prisoners; to proclaim the year of goodwill on the part of Jehovah and the day of vengeance on the part of our God; to comfort all the mourning ones." (Young's; American Standard Bible; NWT)

Does this show that there is only one Person sending and anointing? Someone who sends and anoints himself? Jesus applied this verse's mention of the Messiah to himself at LUKE 4:18-21. Was he speaking ONLY of himself, or was there someone else involved to do the sending and the anointing?

[myth-one.com]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #29]

No, angels are not immortal.

Name a dead angel.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #29]

No, angels are not immortal.

Name a dead angel.

Satan and his demons will be dead very soon. God has a time planned when the death of all evil persons and spirits will occur.

[myth-one.com]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #29]

No, angels are not immortal.

Name a dead angel.

Satan and his demons will be dead very soon. God has a time planned when the death of all evil persons and spirits will occur.

God cannot kill beings which He created as immortal. Satan and his demons will live forever as the Bible states:

Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #29]

No, angels are not immortal.

Name a dead angel.

Satan and his demons will be dead very soon. God has a time planned when the death of all evil persons and spirits will occur.

God cannot kill beings which He created as immortal. Satan and his demons will live forever as the Bible states:

Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

The Bible states many things symbolically. The book of Revelation is a book of symbols. The Bible says that locusts will converge on the earth with the hair of women and teeth like lions. Is this to be taken literally? As literal as the devil being tormented day and night forever. Both are speaking of things that are not literal, but symbolically refer to some other truth.

[myth-one.com]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #29]

No, angels are not immortal.

Name a dead angel.

Satan and his demons will be dead very soon. God has a time planned when the death of all evil persons and spirits will occur.

God cannot kill beings which He created as immortal. Satan and his demons will live forever as the Bible states:

Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

The Bible states many things symbolically. The book of Revelation is a book of symbols. The Bible says that locusts will converge on the earth with the hair of women and teeth like lions. Is this to be taken literally? As literal as the devil being tormented day and night forever. Both are speaking of things that are not literal, but symbolically refer to some other truth.

You claim that the devil will die.

The God inspired scriptures state that the devil will be tormented for ever and ever.

I'll have to go with God on this one.

And it makes sense as being a spiritual bodied being, the devil cannot die.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #29]

No, angels are not immortal.

Name a dead angel.

Satan and his demons will be dead very soon. God has a time planned when the death of all evil persons and spirits will occur.

God cannot kill beings which He created as immortal. Satan and his demons will live forever as the Bible states:

Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

The Bible states many things symbolically. The book of Revelation is a book of symbols. The Bible says that locusts will converge on the earth with the hair of women and teeth like lions. Is this to be taken literally? As literal as the devil being tormented day and night forever. Both are speaking of things that are not literal, but symbolically refer to some other truth.

You claim that the devil will die.

The God inspired scriptures state that the devil will be tormented for ever and ever.

I'll have to go with God on this one.

And it makes sense as being a spiritual bodied being, the devil cannot die.

There is nothing anywhere in the Bible that supports your view that spirits cannot die. They were not created immortal. Only Jesus was immortal when Paul wrote to Timothy. That means that no other being was immortal, including spirit beings.

[Capbook]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #29]

No, angels are not immortal.

Name a dead angel.

Satan and his demons will be dead very soon. God has a time planned when the death of all evil persons and spirits will occur.

God cannot kill beings which He created as immortal. Satan and his demons will live forever as the Bible states:

Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

The Bible states many things symbolically. The book of Revelation is a book of symbols. The Bible says that locusts will converge on the earth with the hair of women and teeth like lions. Is this to be taken literally? As literal as the devil being tormented day and night forever. Both are speaking of things that are not literal, but symbolically refer to some other truth.

You claim that the devil will die.

The God inspired scriptures state that the devil will be tormented for ever and ever.

I'll have to go with God on this one.

And it makes sense as being a spiritual bodied being, the devil cannot die.

The wicked, Satan and demons will be destroyed and no more hostile forces, malignant powers against the kingdom of God. There is a preparation for that final consummation. See Barne's Notes below;
And Rev 21:4 follows.

Revelation 20:10
[And shall be tormented day and night forever] Compare the notes on Rev 14:11. All the great enemies of the church are destroyed, and henceforward there is to be no array of hostile forces; no combination of malignant powers against the kingdom of God. The gospel triumphs; the way is prepared for the final consummation.
(from Barnes' Notes)

Revelation 21:4
And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away."(NKJV)

[JehovahsWitness]

The wicked, Satan and demons will be destroyed ...

Will Satan be tortured forever or will he cease to exist ?

[Capbook]

The wicked, Satan and demons will be destroyed ...

Will Satan be tortured forever or will he cease to exist ?

Yes, he will be destroyed.
Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he [Jesus] also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

[JehovahsWitness]

The wicked, Satan and demons will be destroyed ...

Will Satan be tortured forever or will he cease to exist ?

Yes, he will be destroyed.
Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he [Jesus] also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

When you say "destroyed" do you mean cease to exist?