Jehovah's Witnesses Bible

[Ross]

Much debate has taken place over the change the Jehovah's Witnesses made to John 1:1 rendering GOD as 'a god'. Virtually all references made to the Divinity of Jesus Christ in the NWT of the Greek Scriptures included adjustments to the literal rendering of the Koine' Greek to English, with the notable exception of John 20:28.

This translation of the Greek Scriptures was performed in secret by a Translation Committee led by the President and Vice President without the knowledge of the Governing Body who had no option but to accept this once it was revealed, as back then the Governing Body had little power.

After this they produced the Hebrew Scriptures, and It didn't take long for them to carry out similar unfaithful translation.

Almost every Bible ever written translates the second part of Genesis 1:2 as it appears to us in the Hebrew Masoretic Text:

"And The Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters"

Jehovah's Witnesses assert that the Spirit of God, The Holy Spirit, is a none intelligent, none personal form of Gods power, likened in their literature to electricity that makes things work or happen.

Their official description and interpretation of the Holy Spirit is 'Gods active force'.

Genesis 1:2 reads in the New World Translation:

" and God’s active force was moving about over the surface of the waters."

Is this not the most blatant insertion of pre conceived doctrine into scripture you have ever seen?

[Tcg]

Matthew 20:28 declares that The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit have but one name. What do you think about that?

Its not what I think.....

Are you able to answer this civil question?

Did you overlook mine? How does Mt. 20:28 declare what you claim it does?


Tcg

[2timothy316]

Matthew 20:28 declares that The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit have but one name. What do you think about that?

Its not what I think.....

Are you able to answer this civil question?

"Just as the Son of man came, not to be ministered to, but to minister and to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.” - Matt 20:28
I'm not seeing the connection to the three having the same name.

[2timothy316]

Your entire confusion lies with your indoctrination that YHWH (JEHOVAH) cannot be anything other than The Father.

The doctrine you present is confusing because it goes against what the Bible teaches and the scriptures you try to present to support your doctrine don't fit.

Who Jehovah is isn't confusing to me at all.
"O Jehovah, you are our Father." - Isaiah 64:8
Scriptures like this are where my doctrines come from.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to LittleNipper in post #64]

If you are not cognizant of pagan trinities, you haven't really looked into it. Do some research.

[onewithhim]

Jews didn't believe Jehovah was part of a trinity.

Folks on here who study the Bible don't believe that Jehovah was part of a Trinity either.

Just saying this doesn't prove anything. Scriptures?

I am not aware of any theological concept that states ' Jehovah was part of a Trinity.'

Scriptures?

It is those that believe in the trinity that think that Jehovah is Jesus.
https://rsc.byu.edu/jesus-christ-son-go ... hovah-yhwh
Or do you believe in a different type of trinity? If so, explain.

It is Jehovah's Witnesses who think Jesus is called Michael, and believe only the Father is YHWH
Trinitarians believe that YHWH is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 20:28 declares that The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit have but one name. What do you think about that?

You are imagining that they have one name. That verse doesn't lend any credence to that line of thinking. What it is saying is that the disciples should be baptized "in the name of the Father, [and of] the Son, and the Holy Spirit." The Father has a name and the Son has a name (and the Holy Spirit is not a Person). That rendering is just as logical as your understanding.

You are certainly right that Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Jesus' name in heaven is Michael, and only the Father is YHWH. That only the Father is YHWH can be proven inexorably by a close study of the Scriptures from Genesis to Revelation. Have you read the many posts about that on these threads?

[LittleNipper]

[Replying to LittleNipper in post #64]

If you are not cognizant of pagan trinities, you haven't really looked into it. Do some research.

Why would I wish to research pagan ritualism? Sorry, but just because Satan tries to mimic GOD with a his own trinity, doesn't mean that I'm going to disregard my faith in CHRIST JESUS. Without The FATHER, THE SON, and THE HOLY SPIRIT there can be absolutely NO salvation. Satan doesn't want you to worship OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. Satan wants everyone to worship him.

[Ross]

Matthew 20:28 declares that The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit have but one name. What do you think about that?

Matthew 20:28 states the following: "even as the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”

Are you sure this is the reference you intended?


Tcg

Sorry, I meant Matthew 28: 19,20.

[Ross]

Its not what I think but what trinity you believe in. Do you agree with the trinitarian in the linked article that says that Jehovah is Jesus? I want to figure out if all trinitarians have the same doctrine. Right now, it doesn't seem so, comparing what you say with what the trinitarian said in his article. After all it was you said that, "I am not aware of any theological concept that states ' Jehovah was part of a Trinity.' Well, I have made you aware that there are trinitarians that believe Jehovah is part of the trinity by saying Jehovah is Jesus. Or Jesus not part of the trinity? Or is your fellow trinitarian wrong?

Firstly Timothy, I have never actually claimed to be a Trinitarian.

Good for you!
So you're of the belief that Jesus, Jehovah and the Holy Spirit are the same person.

That is not what the Trinity concept is, nor is it my belief

[Ross]

The Trinity doctrine is that The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit are the same ONE God, but three persons.

[Ross]

The Trinity doctrine is that The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit are the same ONE God, but three persons.

I personally have always had reservations about the 'three persons' as a description, however I am in no doubt whatsoever that the Bible teaches the first bit:

that The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit are the same ONE God,