Christians: why do you think Jews don’t accept the Christian Testament?

[Avoice]

Why do you think Jews reject the teachings of the church?

If you could pick one passage to convince them to believe Jesus is their anointed one (messiah) what would it be?

[2timothy316]

Where did I say that I loved the Witnesses more than Jehovah or the truth? Straw man.
I love the Witnesses because we are like minded. They love truth more than the people in the religion. Unlike others that will accept wrong doing in the eyes of God to keep people from leaving their religion.

Of course you're free to see whatever you choose to see, yet that doesn't make it true. If I was prideful and thought more of myself than what was necessary then wouldn't be a Jehovah's Witness. If Jehovah's Witnesses encouraged me to be prideful in myself I wouldn't be a Jehovah's Witness. In other words there would be more indicators than just being confident in what I believe to be true if I was prideful. The Bible is clear, boast in Jehovah. Which is where all my confidence placed. (2 Cor 10:17)

Just read your posts and notice how they focus on your preferred flavor of the religion you belong to all the while ignoring that others hold the same feelings you do towards their preferred religion.

You can't read my feelings. You're assuming everything you say. That is very far from the truth. You also have no idea why I chose my religion or why I will not change. It's the teachings that I don't like. Not because they aren't from my religion but because they are harmful teachings to the people that follow them and to others. History shows this. There are many many other factors all through careful examination. I didn't choose it because it was what I wanted but I believe it is what Jehovah God wants for me and all the people that are motivated by the same thing I am. Love for God and what HE wants and not for promise of Heaven, fame, money or personal gain.

[Clownboat]

You can't read my feelings.

Matthew 12:37
37 for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”

Do you know why the Jews don't accept the Christian Testament and thereby why they reject the Jehovah Witnesses organization?
Do you know why the Jews are not part of the Jehovah Witness organization?

Not because they aren't from my religion but because they are harmful teachings to the people that follow them and to others.

Biblical teachings being harmful could be a topic of its own.

History shows this.

Yup!

There are many many other factors all through careful examination. I didn't choose it because it was what I wanted but I believe it is what Jehovah God wants for me and all the people that are motivated by the same thing I am. Love for God and what HE wants and not for promise of Heaven, fame, money or personal gain.

Careful now, keep that quote from Coleridge in mind...

[2timothy316]

You can't read my feelings.

Matthew 12:37
37 for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”

Do you know why the Jews don't accept the Christian Testament and thereby why they reject the Jehovah Witnesses organization?

Yes.

Do you know why the Jews are not part of the Jehovah Witness organization?

Yes.

Not because they aren't from my religion but because they are harmful teachings to the people that follow them and to others.

Biblical teachings being harmful could be a topic of its own.

People being harmful could be a topic of its own. People use anything that will further their own self serving agenda.

[Clownboat]

Do you know why the Jews don't accept the Christian Testament and thereby why they reject the Jehovah Witnesses organization?

Yes.

So just to confirm. The Jews are wrong about Jesus and the Christian God, but the Jehovah Witnesses have the correct understanding?

Is it true that the Jehovah Witness's originated in the US in 1870s as an off shoot of Christianity whereas Judaism dates back to when Prophet Moses walked the Earth? Asking for a friend.

People being harmful could be a topic of its own. People use anything that will further their own self serving agenda.

Religions are one such unnecessary mechanism. Probably the biggest one we have on this planet for causing harm to others.

[2timothy316]

Do you know why the Jews don't accept the Christian Testament and thereby why they reject the Jehovah Witnesses organization?

Yes.

So just to confirm. The Jews are wrong about Jesus and the Christian God, but the Jehovah Witnesses have the correct understanding?

Yes.

Is it true that the Jehovah Witness's originated in the US in 1870s as an off shoot of Christianity whereas Judaism dates back to when Prophet Moses walked the Earth? Asking for a friend.

Yes and it was prophesied in the Bible that such a group would come out of false religion. If Moses was alive today he would be a Jehovah's Witness and we consider him as a servant of Jehovah. When he is ressurected all JWs will serve with Moses again. Also, Moses wasn't the core of the Hebrews when he was alive. Jehovah was. Or was supposed to be but rarely did the majority put Jehovah first.

How much do you know about Moses? Did you know most of the time, the Hebrews he was leading hated him? There are even accounts of those people trying to remove him from that leadership using much of the reasoning that you're using here.
“That is enough of you,” they said to Moses and Aaron, “because the whole assembly are all of them holy and Jehovah is in their midst. Why, then, should you lift yourselves up above the congregation of Jehovah?”​—Numbers 16:1-3.

Are you not accusing JWs of the same thing? Accusing us of lifting ourselves above other religions? Are you not asserting that all other religions should be considered just as holy as ours? Would you like to know how God handled that dispute back then?

People being harmful could be a topic of its own. People use anything that will further their own self serving agenda.

Religions are one such unnecessary mechanism. Probably the biggest one we have on this planet for causing harm to others.

Your opinion has been noted.

[Clownboat]

So just to confirm. The Jews are wrong about Jesus and the Christian God, but the Jehovah Witnesses have the correct understanding?

Yes.

...will proceed by loving his sect or church better than...
What a fascinating belief you hold, even though expected.

Is it true that the Jehovah Witness's originated in the US in 1870s as an off shoot of Christianity whereas Judaism dates back to when Prophet Moses walked the Earth? Asking for a friend.

Yes and it was prophesied in the Bible that such a group would come out of false religion.

Got it, now we must accept that it's possible to tell the future. You really don't care how much baggage you must add in order to maintain belief do you?

If Moses was alive today he would be a Jehovah's Witness

No, he wouldn't. Jehovah's Witnesses were not even invented as a religion until 1870. Jesus would be rolling in his grave if he were to hear these words IMO.

When he is ressurected all JWs will serve with Moses again.

I think you mean Muhammed, peace be upon him. It's ok, we all slip up from time to time.
"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."

Also, Moses wasn't the core of the Hebrews when he was alive. Jehovah was.

Really!?! So the core followers of Jehovah reject the Christian Testament. This is telling...

Or was supposed to be but rarely did the majority put Jehovah first.

They probably just wanted to sin though. Let's go with that and you can continue with your unevidenced belief about the Hebrews. Easy peasy!

How much do you know about Moses?

I happen to know that historically, we know nothing about Moses and it can even be argued that he was not a real person.

Did you know most of the time, the Hebrews he was leading hated him?

I did not know that and neither do you. Your talking about a guy from a story that we know nothing about and may not have even been a real person.

There are even accounts of those people trying to remove him from that leadership using much of the reasoning that you're using here.

Holy Monkeys! I pray you never read the Harry Potter books. I can imagine how confusing that would be.

Are you not accusing JWs of the same thing? Accusing us of lifting ourselves above other religions?

You mean like making a claim about how a Moses character would be one of you? Imagine how arrogant you would find it to hear a Catholic or Muslim utter such a thing, then do some self reflecting please to understand where I'm coming from.
To be clear, I have accused one JW so far of: "He who begins by loving Christianity more than Truth, will proceed by loving his sect or church better than Christianity, and end in loving himself better than all."

Are you not asserting that all other religions should be considered just as holy as ours? Would you like to know how God handled that dispute back then?

I'm not aware that any religion is 'holy'. Wouldn't that be a bit like loving your sect to make such a claim? I'm aware of many a religion that many a human will pick to belong to, to provide community and a place to go when they die or what have you. Why should such beliefs be holy though is lost on me.

Religions are one such unnecessary mechanism. Probably the biggest one we have on this planet for causing harm to others.

Your opinion has been noted.

And you firing your head into the sand about this 'opinion' is also noted.

[2timothy316]

Also, Moses wasn't the core of the Hebrews when he was alive. Jehovah was.

Really!?! So the core followers of Jehovah reject the Christian Testament. This is telling...

This statement is telling as well....Clearly you don't know that the way the Jews worship today is nothing like the way Moses did.
By reading your other statements, you're lacking way too much Biblical knowledge to keep me engaged in this debate.

[Clownboat]

This statement is telling as well....Clearly you don't know that the way the Jews worship today is nothing like the way Moses did.

I challenge you to show that you know how Moses, who may not have even existed, worshipped. Your not going to deceive me!

You also completely failed to address the fact that the Jews reject the Christian testament that for some reason you feel is superior when compared to other religious writings. Well, not the New Testament itself, specifically the Watchtower version of it. That's where the Coleridge quote comes in to play mind you.

By reading your other statements, you're lacking way too much Biblical knowledge to keep me engaged in this debate.

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. - Socrates

Bye!

[2timothy316]

This statement is telling as well....Clearly you don't know that the way the Jews worship today is nothing like the way Moses did.

I challenge you to show that you know how Moses, who may not have even existed, worshipped. Your not going to deceive me!

That's easy. Read the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. Why those books? Because Moses wrote them. Also, the Bible can't be challenged as to if it is true or not in this forum. If it says Moses existed, then he did and I don't have to prove that he did.

[2timothy316]

By reading your other statements, you're lacking way too much Biblical knowledge to keep me engaged in this debate.

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. - Socrates

Slander is saying something that is false about someone else. What said about you lacking knowledge about the Bible isn't false. Otherwise you wouldn't ask such questions such as, 'How did Moses worship God?' You're asking questions that you should already know the answer to if you knew the Bible.