What's wrong with being gay?

[Daedalus X]

This thread is a continuation of an off topic conversation from here.

First, I think that we all agree that it's important to promote understanding, respect, and equality for all individuals, regardless of their sexual orientation. Everyone should be treated with dignity and allowed to express their identity without fear of discrimination or harm.


Question for debate is LGTBQIA2S+ a harmless social contagion, or are there serious unintended consequences awaiting the individuals and societies that are going down this road?

[Jose Fly]

It is a dangerous proposition in that it is imposing unnecessary and invasive changes on the majority in order to satisfy the feelings of a small minority.

Said every opponent of every civil rights advancement ever.

[brunumb]

It is a dangerous proposition in that it is imposing unnecessary and invasive changes on the majority in order to satisfy the feelings of a small minority.

Said every opponent of every civil rights advancement ever.

What rights have been denied transgender people?

[Daedalus X]

???? You think LGBTQ people have only recently existed? Really?

Closet gays have been around for a long time, but this new movement of loud, proud LGBTQ+ demanding to be celebrated by all of society, is the new part.

What does that mean? What would "resisting the gay trend" look like?

Budweiser and Target are obvious examples. Parents at school board meetings is another.

What do you think is going to happen?

In the book 1984 Orwell describes a new language, where the vocabulary will be altered. The whole climate of thought will be different. In fact, there will be no thought, as we understand it now. Orthodoxy means not thinking—not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness.

You need to educate yourself.

“We are pausing gender affirmation surgeries on patients under age 18 while we complete this review, which may take several months,” wrote C. Wright Pinson, VUMC’s deputy CEO and chief health system officer.

Why would they be "pausing" something that they are not doing?

[Daedalus X]

Really? Can you name some prominent feminized men who have gone to war?

I would say it is pretty much all of them, here is the most recent American ones.



And don't forget the Viceroy of the Ukraine, who will be the first to get the world into a thermonuclear exchange.

https://rumble.com/v31gdxy-trump-corrup ... war-3.html

Your general hypothesis is: "Forget all the wars you've seen conducted by men - focus on the few examples of women and 'feminized men' going to war. Ignore the violent men in prison, or dominating the violent sports, or majority of domstic violence abusers being men! It's women who are violent - and violence is what we don't want to breed out of Men!

Classic confused bigotry. They don't want men to be "softened" (feminized) - because women are violent...

Evolution has spent millions of years in honing our gender roles, and now we think we can overturn the whole project in a few generations.
There is a reason why young black men are responsible for half the murders in our country. I think the reason for that is that these men are predominantly raised by single mothers, with no father living in the home. And without good, strong masculine men to teach them their gender role in life they will ad lib and end up becoming violent criminals.
I have never seen a good argument that would conclude, that feminizing men is going to do us any good, have you?

[Jose Fly]

What rights have been denied transgender people?

I posted a partial list to you a few weeks ago. Do I need to dig it up?

[Jose Fly]

Closet gays have been around for a long time, but this new movement of loud, proud LGBTQ+ demanding to be celebrated by all of society, is the new part.

So you want LGBTQs to be forced back into the closet?

What does that mean? What would "resisting the gay trend" look like?

Budweiser and Target are obvious examples. Parents at school board meetings is another.

So you don't want LGBTQs to be allowed to have jobs?

In the book 1984 Orwell describes a new language, where the vocabulary will be altered. The whole climate of thought will be different. In fact, there will be no thought, as we understand it now. Orthodoxy means not thinking—not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness.

Sorry, you're not making sense.

Why would they be "pausing" something that they are not doing?

You completely missed the point. Go read the protocols again.

[Daedalus X]

So you want LGBTQs to be forced back into the closet?

I would be fine with them back in the closet, but we can't put that Genie back. People do have a right to do what they want to do, so long as the behavior has not been forbidden by law. But, we don't have to like the behavior either. And we can take legal countermeasures to suppress the expression of LGBTQ+ behavior.

So you don't want LGBTQs to be allowed to have jobs?

As long as they are not violating the law or company policies, they should be allowed to work. As for working for Budweiser or Target they may need to find a new job, as will the normies in those companies.

You completely missed the point. Go read the protocols again.

I guess I did miss the point. I thought you were trying to say that minors are not getting gender affirming surgeries. Which you would not do, as minors ARE getting gender affirming surgeries.
So, what was your point that I missed?

[boatsnguitars]

Really? Can you name some prominent feminized men who have gone to war?

I would say it is pretty much all of them, here is the most recent American ones.



And don't forget the Viceroy of the Ukraine, who will be the first to get the world into a thermonuclear exchange.

https://rumble.com/v31gdxy-trump-corrup ... war-3.html

Your general hypothesis is: "Forget all the wars you've seen conducted by men - focus on the few examples of women and 'feminized men' going to war. Ignore the violent men in prison, or dominating the violent sports, or majority of domstic violence abusers being men! It's women who are violent - and violence is what we don't want to breed out of Men!

Classic confused bigotry. They don't want men to be "softened" (feminized) - because women are violent...

Evolution has spent millions of years in honing our gender roles, and now we think we can overturn the whole project in a few generations.
There is a reason why young black men are responsible for half the murders in our country. I think the reason for that is that these men are predominantly raised by single mothers, with no father living in the home. And without good, strong masculine men to teach them their gender role in life they will ad lib and end up becoming violent criminals.
I have never seen a good argument that would conclude, that feminizing men is going to do us any good, have you?

Yeah, I'm going to let others deal with what appears to me a racist, sexist, nazi-ish, incel perspective on manhood, womanhood, and what "feminized" means.

[brunumb]

What rights have been denied transgender people?

I posted a partial list to you a few weeks ago. Do I need to dig it up?

That would be most helpful, thank you.

Blaire White is a trans woman who has been active on social media for over a decade and now has more than a million subscribers to her YouTube channel. She does not feel that there are any rights that have been denied her. She talks about it in her clip below. It's all worth watching but she gets specific at about 6:50.

[Daedalus X]

Yeah, I'm going to let others deal with what appears to me a racist, sexist, nazi-ish, incel perspective on manhood, womanhood, and what "feminized" means.

The generation that fought the Germans in WW2 had a standard of what a man should act like. If that standard is even brought up today, the new generation will get so triggered that they will accuse the person who brought it up of being a NAZI. This is how feminized our society has become. If our kinder gentler nation loses the ability to defend itself then a less kinder gentler nation will remove our new found way of life from this world. This is why we need to think hard before we try to feminize and gay our men.