Should misinformation be banned from the major platforms?

[Daedalus X]

For this topic misinformation is any information that promotes needle hesitancy or anti authoritarian approved information.

Here is an example of misinformation that can't be posted to YouTube, twitter, Facebook or any mainline medium. Is this good public policy?



This is a MUST WATCH.

https://www.therealanthonyfaucimovie.com/viewing/

[boatsnguitars]

For this topic misinformation is any information that promotes needle hesitancy or anti authoritarian approved information.

Here is an example of misinformation that can't be posted to YouTube, twitter, Facebook or any mainline medium. Is this good public policy?



This is a MUST WATCH.

https://www.therealanthonyfaucimovie.com/viewing/

This conversation is going to become increasing important and problematic with the advent of AI creating videos that could be made of each one of us, showing us diddling kids, or practicing beastiality - within a few minutes, based on one photo. If you've ever annoyed someone, prepare to have your likeness turned into a realistic looking video.

Remember, when people would paste someone's head on a porn star to make the person look silly - AI/Deep Fakes is going to make that normal, and look absolutely real.

It's one thing to fight for Free Speech, it's another when it's your life turn upside down... Society needs to get on top of this before it's way too late (it's already late).

[brunumb]

The Truth About Woke Indoctrination in Schools



I hope I don't live long enough to see where the world is heading with this ideology.

[brunumb]

He interprets the fact that 99.98% of humans are clearly male or female to mean biological sex is essentially binary. Sun treats the 0.018% of humans who have intersex disorders to mean biological sex is "anything but binary."

It boggles the mind that anyone could argue on the basis of such a tiny percentage of variation that biological sex is not binary. Anyone with a smattering of knowledge in evolution, physiology and biology would know that reproduction is not a process that occurs with 100% accuracy. Things go wrong. People are born with all sorts of defects and disorders such as missing limbs, faulty organs, scale-like skin (Harlequin ichthyosis) and improperly formed genitalia. That does not mean that any of those undermines what is occurs ordinarily or what defines a human being, The vast majority of people are born clearly male or female. Human sex is binary. Gender dysphoria may occur in a few people, but that does not involve any physical disorder.

[boatsnguitars]

The Truth About Woke Indoctrination in Schools



I hope I don't live long enough to see where the world is heading with this ideology.

Conservatism and Anti-Wokeism is truly frightening.

It's like saying "Hey, what about my rights to be a total douche?"

[brunumb]

[Replying to boatsnguitars in post #184]

The trans activists for one are exercising those rights to the hilt.

The fear of speaking out about the blatant lies and misinformation being spread today is reminiscent of Germany in the 30s. Free speech is being eroded by those promoting freedoms. How ironic. Stick labels on me until the cows come home but they are no substitute for open discussion or sound arguments.

[boatsnguitars]

[Replying to boatsnguitars in post #184]

The trans activists for one are exercising those rights to the hilt.

The fear of speaking out about the blatant lies and misinformation being spread today is reminiscent of Germany in the 30s. Free speech is being eroded by those promoting freedoms. How ironic. Stick labels on me until the cows come home but they are no substitute for open discussion or sound arguments.

Where do you believe Free Speech is in jeopardy? What lies and blatant information are you talking about?

For every position, there are always some people who take the issue a little too far, but that would be the exception. I don't see why a whole class of people - Trans people - need to suffer because a few of them are being irrational.

This is what hamstrung so much of the progress in Civil Rights for People of Color, Women, Gay people. The Right would find a few crazies and make it sound like they were the norm. The public got scared and literally punished women, PoC, Gay people for those few crazies.

Don't get sucked into the Right's fear mongering.

You're right. This is like Nazi Germany. The Nazi's picked out a few cases where the Jews were acting poorly and blamed Jews for the total breakdown of society.

Keep your head. Don't bow to the fear mongering. Support Trans Rights. Support Human Rights.

[Jose Fly]

So now the thread has jumped the shark. Trans people and folks like me who support their civil rights are just like Nazis? FFS....

When I see garbage like that, I have to wonder...just what exactly do you all want? The government to make it illegal to be transgender? Lock 'em all up? Prohibit any LGBTQs from holding jobs? Or maybe just certain jobs, like teachers? Make it legal to discriminate against them in public life? Reduce them to second-class status in society, similar to how blacks were treated under Jim Crow?

[brunumb]

So now the thread has jumped the shark. Trans people and folks like me who support their civil rights are just like Nazis? FFS....

When I see garbage like that, I have to wonder...just what exactly do you all want? The government to make it illegal to be transgender? Lock 'em all up? Prohibit any LGBTQs from holding jobs? Or maybe just certain jobs, like teachers? Make it legal to discriminate against them in public life? Reduce them to second-class status in society, similar to how blacks were treated under Jim Crow?

This is the sort of misinformation that needs to be banned. What rights are being taken away from trans people? Get real please. There are laws about drinking, driving, smoking, marrying, tattooing and so on, all aimed at minors. Adults are not prevented from doing any of those things. Trans people already have the same rights. The issues relate to what is being allowed for young people who are not in a position to make informed decisions about their lives. There is a lot of fear mongering that is based on false information that has led to emotional blackmail of parents in particular. England and Scandinavia have woken up to the actual dangers of puberty blockers and surgical interventions. Somehow the hysteria over all of this is still being fanned by activists in the US. These are the people behaving like the brown shirts, attacking people and shutting down free discussion. No one is trying to eradicate transgender people!

[brunumb]

Keep your head. Don't bow to the fear mongering. Support Trans Rights. Support Human Rights.

Human rights and trans rights are not under threat. I am not bowing to fear mongering. I have no issue whatsoever with people living their lives as whatever sexual identity they prefer, as long it does not impact adversely on others. What is happening is that educational institutions are now indoctrinating the young beyond just being accepting and inclusive. The best teaching is done by example and discouraging unacceptable behaviour. It should not involve forcing sexual identity issues on the young and vulnerable long before those things are even relevant. Having half naked men being lashed in public parades is not how one teaches love and acceptance. How ironic that having spent decades trying to undo male and female stereotyping, it is now actually being used to define sexuality. We tried to say that boys were allowed to play with doll and girls with trucks, but if that happens now, boys must be girls and girls must be boys. Quick, out with the drugs and snippers and let's make it happen. The world has gone crazy.

[Jose Fly]

This is the sort of misinformation that needs to be banned. What rights are being taken away from trans people? Get real please.

Ok, let's get real.

Not all states even allow a person to change their legal gender. Tennessee, Montana, and Oklahoma have statutes specifically prohibiting legal changes in gender.

Only 22 states prohibit discrimination against trans people in housing.

Florida recently allowed discrimination against LGBTQs in health care because of religious reasons.

Multiple jurisdictions have imposed on trans people's freedom of speech by restricting or outright banning drag shows.

Multiple states are restricting trans people's right to make their own medical decisions, as well as parents of trans kids (right to privacy).

Trans people are routinely legally discriminated against in social services, such as homeless shelters.

There are laws about drinking, driving, smoking, marrying, tattooing and so on, all aimed at minors. Adults are not prevented from doing any of those things.

I can drink, smoke, get married, get tats, and so on in front of my kids. I can take them to R rated movies that show people having sex. Yet in some states, if I take them to a drag show there's a good chance someone will get arrested (me, the performers, or both).

Trans people already have the same rights.

Incorrect. See above.

The issues relate to what is being allowed for young people who are not in a position to make informed decisions about their lives.

Yet you would prefer the government intervene between the kid, their parents, and their doctor. So much for the right to privacy, self-determination, and parental rights.

These are the people behaving like the brown shirts, attacking people and shutting down free discussion. No one is trying to eradicate transgender people!

Again with the Nazi analogies. Can you at least try to discuss this rationally?

And btw, you never really answered my question. What specifically is your desired outcome in this area?