Christian Nationalism American Style

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To vacillate or not to vacillate, that is the question...or is it?😎

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I was going to start a thread on Christian Nationalism, but realized it might have been done already.


My question: How Christian is Christian Nationalism?

Whay are Christians goals when they talk about being a Christian Nation? What policies are they going to enact from the Bible?

Who would want to live in a country run by Christian Nationalists?

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"Christian nationalism" is kind of an oxymoron, isn't it?

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The Barbarian wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:22 am "Christian nationalism" is kind of an oxymoron, isn't it?
I don't know. I mean, maybe by some definitions, but it clearly means something to them. Whether or not its rational, I think they mean something by it that fuses the Church and the State; perhaps like the Vatican?

What I don't understand is why most Christians don't support Christian Nationalism, when they believe the Bible is the only book we should ever follow. It's this contradiction that always amazes me.

For example, like poeple who go to Church and say, "Oh, Pastor! You are so pious! I wish I had your Faith! You are truly living the Christ-like life!." Then, away from Church, they say, "Well, I don't believe everyhting in the Bible, I just try to be a good person, etc."

If I knew - KNEW (as in really believed like the Christians here) - that God Himself wrote an Owner's Manual for Humanity, I'd try to adhere to it perfectly, with no reservations - yet, few Christians think that's a good idea.

Likewise, most Christians think CN is a horrible idea.

Meanwhile, I would have no problem have a fully Secular Nation. It wouldn't be authoritarian, or particularly onerous, though I imagine policies would be more science-based than emotional, and that may anooy some people. But, point is, I don't see any problem dropping religion from anything in our lives - but I see the great harm in elevating religion in our lives.

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boatsnguitars wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 5:40 am
The Barbarian wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:22 am "Christian nationalism" is kind of an oxymoron, isn't it?
I don't know. I mean, maybe by some definitions, but it clearly means something to them. Whether or not its rational, I think they mean something by it that fuses the Church and the State; perhaps like the Vatican?

What I don't understand is why most Christians don't support Christian Nationalism, when they believe the Bible is the only book we should ever follow. It's this contradiction that always amazes me.

For example, like poeple who go to Church and say, "Oh, Pastor! You are so pious! I wish I had your Faith! You are truly living the Christ-like life!." Then, away from Church, they say, "Well, I don't believe everyhting in the Bible, I just try to be a good person, etc."

If I knew - KNEW (as in really believed like the Christians here) - that God Himself wrote an Owner's Manual for Humanity, I'd try to adhere to it perfectly, with no reservations - yet, few Christians think that's a good idea.

Likewise, most Christians think CN is a horrible idea.

Meanwhile, I would have no problem have a fully Secular Nation. It wouldn't be authoritarian, or particularly onerous, though I imagine policies would be more science-based than emotional, and that may anooy some people. But, point is, I don't see any problem dropping religion from anything in our lives - but I see the great harm in elevating religion in our lives.
Obviously, there are things in the Bible that are not literally true. The Earth isn't flat with a solid dome over it with windows to let rain fall from the water over the dome. Eventually, some Jews had trouble separating this kind of thing from God's actual message to us.

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