A dogmatic atheist flatly denies that there is a Divine Being.
A skeptical atheist doubts the ability of the human mind to determine, whether or not there is a God.
A critical atheist maintains that there is no valid proof for the existence of God.
Especially with the state that cosmology is in. I maintain that it is impossible for anyone to be a dogmatic atheist. If you think you are a dogmatic atheist then you must answer the question of what was there before this universe came into existence.
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Is there such a thing as a dogmatic atheist?
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Re: Is there such a thing as a dogmatic atheist?
Post #61Says the bible believerEarthScienceguy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:32 am If you want to imagine things and then believe them that is up to you.

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Re: Is there such a thing as a dogmatic atheist?
Post #62I could have a look if you wanted, but I am sure I have seen a lot of historians wrote books crediting a real Jesus but interpreting his doings (while accepting his sayings as valid). Like a reform Rabbi if not a divine being. I believe that historians also generally accept that the attributions of the gospels are convenient, but not to be relied on. And I can't believe that any historians - even Christian ones - argue that Jesus wrote anything that we have today.EarthScienceguy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:04 pm [Replying to Clownboat in post #58]
Do you have any historians that agree with you? Or do you just make this stuff up?We know enough for it to be reasonably assumed that the stories told were based off of a real character or characters. We really don't know what you think we do about Jesus. Heck, we don't even know who wrote the gospels, nor how much after Jesus's death they were written. It is truly a shame that the Jesus character(s) didn't write anything down himself though.
Let me know when you have a historian that agrees with you on your opinions.
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Re: Is there such a thing as a dogmatic atheist?
Post #63[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #61]
Says the materialist. If you do not like what I am saying just think about something else. Because materialism cannot account for any type of objective reality. We are all just figments of your imagination according to materialism.Says the bible believer
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Re: Is there such a thing as a dogmatic atheist?
Post #64Another Christian who prefers their claims and ideas go unchallenged?EarthScienceguy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:08 pm [Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #61]
Says the materialist. If you do not like what I am saying just think about something else.Says the bible believer
Some of you guys vote, hoping to infect laws with your peculiar brand of theocracy. I consider it a civic duty to point out the nature of your ideas and claims.
Because claiming human / god hybrids die for three days then hop up and fetch groceries is supposed to reflect reality?Because materialism cannot account for any type of objective reality.
As Gods are for the theist.We are all just figments of your imagination according to materialism.
It's a sad amusement to see a theist carry on about "objective reality" when their fanciful, farcical god claims don't even reflect it.
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Re: Is there such a thing as a dogmatic atheist?
Post #65[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #64]
Evidence from historians that your statement is true. I do not think you can. Keep searching.Because materialism cannot account for any type of objective reality.
Because claiming human / god hybrids die for three days then hop up and fetch groceries is supposed to reflect reality?
No, the theist would believe that God is real. It would be the materialist that would believe that they are imagination. Just like everything else that they see would be part of their imagination according to their belief system.We are all just figments of your imagination according to materialism.
As Gods are for the theist.
Yes, it is because the rest of us are nothing more than figments of your imagination according to your belief system.It's a sad amusement to see a theist carry on about "objective reality" when their fanciful, farcical god claims don't even reflect it.
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Re: Is there such a thing as a dogmatic atheist?
Post #66For them unaware, a question is not a claim, but a seeking of data.EarthScienceguy wrote:Evidence from historians that your statement is true. I do not think you can. Keep searching.JK wrote: Because claiming human / god hybrids die for three days then hop up and fetch groceries is supposed to reflect reality?
Where has one historian ever put truth to the claim that Jesus rose from the dead? Never. Because historians rely on the hearsay testimonies of folks who can't be cross examined as to the veracity of their claims, or soundness of their minds.
While being incapable of showing their belief reflects reality.We are all just figments of your imagination according to materialism.No, the theist would believe that God is real.JK wrote: As Gods are for the theist.
That doesn't absolve the theist for their unfounded take on things.It would be the materialist that would believe that they are imagination. Just like everything else that they see would be part of their imagination according to their belief system.
This is hilarious, how you fuss about the imaginations of the belief systems of others, while trying to contend your belief system ain't just your imagination.Yes, it is because the rest of us are nothing more than figments of your imagination according to your belief system.JK wrote: It's a sad amusement to see a theist carry on about "objective reality" when their fanciful, farcical god claims don't even reflect it.
So please, show us all how we can confirm your god ain't a figment of your imagination.
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Post #69I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
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Post #70You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.
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