No Heterosexuals In The Kingdom Of God

[myth-one.com]

There are unending arguments between Christianity and the gay community regarding where the latter will spend their "eternity." Both sides of this argument needlessly waste much time and energy. That said, if the evangelists make this statement, "No homosexuals in heaven," they are telling the truth, but they do not understand why it is true. The statement "No heterosexuals in heaven" is equally true. How can that be? The fact is that there is no sex in heaven. Bummer! Yea I know, it disappointed me also!

Jesus was posed a question regarding one woman with multiple husbands which predeceased her. When she entered the Kingdom of God, which earthly husband would become her husband in the Kingdom of Heaven? Jesus answered:

For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

God created marriage to produce families. The sexual act within marriage procreates the human race. In the Kingdom of God, there are no humans and thus no marriage. Since every being in the Kingdom of God lives forever, there is no need to reproduce themselves. Therefore, there is no marrying or sex in the Kingdom of God. Every being in the Kingdom of God will be asexual.

The terrorists of 9/11 infamy, as well as others, were promised seventy-two virgins upon arrival in heaven immediately after their martyrdom. So that one selling point for martyrdom is good sex. If offered martyrdom, you should ask for this part of you pay in advance. Many beliefs and statements from Christian clergy are equally ridiculous.

God created the sexual act for procreation of the human race. Of course mankind, being wiser that God, attempts to improve on God's creation and perverts the sex act in many different ways. So there will be no "gay" or "straight" or "bisexual" beings in the Kingdom of God. However, there will be spirits in the Kingdom of God which were born again from former "gay" and "straight" and "bisexual" humans who lived on earth! There is only one unpardonable sin and it is not of a sexual nature. It is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. See The Unpardonable Sin.

You enter the Kingdom of God with a clean record. God wipes away your sins committed as a human. He no longer knows you were an adulterer, murderer, thief, homosexual, lier, etc; nor does He care! Your past will finally be past!

But do not assume for a moment that humans get a free ride by believing in Jesus. That is, one can do whatever he pleases, then accept Jesus and get a clean slate without consequences. We reap the rewards of our sins here on earth. These may include prison time, jail, fear of detection, guilt, venereal disease, shame, lost opportunities, divorce, low self-esteem; and the list goes on, and on, and on, and on, and on.

Only God forgives sin! Mankind has always had a problem in the area of forgiveness. Thus the constant unending arguments. Are they really necessary?

[acamp1]

Err... so....

What's the question?

[McCulloch]

As a debater:

No marriage in heaven, does not necessarily mean that there is no sex in heaven. Lots of people and just about every other species manage to have sex without marriage. Maybe heaven is one giant orgy. Why not?

As a moderator:
There is no clear question for debate. Moved to Random Ramblings.

[myth-one.com]

No marriage in heaven, does not necessarily mean that there is no sex in heaven. Lots of people and just about every other species manage to have sex without marriage. Maybe heaven is one giant orgy. Why not?

You are debating in the realm of which you are familiar, homo sapiens in the animal kingdom. It reminds me of Jesus' reply when Nicodemus asked Him how people could be born again as a spirit:

If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, If I tell you of heavenly things?

Jesus refused to answer his question knowing that he would not understand. Today man still does not understand the process of being born again.

Yes, in this realm most of us have sex outside of marriage with whoever or whatever we desire. But our realm will cease to exist when the earth becomes part of the Kingdom of Heaven:

Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.

Therefore, there are no "people" of which you speak in heaven, nor will there ever be. Your giant orgy would contain the null set.

The Bible states that man should cleave unto his wife and be fruitful and multiply. There are then commandments against non marital sex. Thou shalt not commit adultery, not covet thy neighbors wife, not lie with a man like you would a woman, etc. So God only sanctions sex for reproduction within marriage. If God desires us to act this way sexually on the earth, why would He allow heaven to be one giant orgy, even if there were people there to participate?

[McCulloch]

The Bible states that man should cleave unto his wife and be fruitful and multiply. There are then commandments against non marital sex. Thou shalt not commit adultery, not covet thy neighbors wife, not lie with a man like you would a woman, etc. So God only sanctions sex for reproduction within marriage. If God desires us to act this way sexually on the earth, why would He allow heaven to be one giant orgy, even if there were people there to participate?

It is all hypothetical. I would have to agree that there seems to be no purpose for sex in non reproducing spiritual beings. But then again, I don't believe in spiritual beings or in heaven. Got any evidence?

[myth-one.com]

Not any evidence you would believe. I respect your beliefs and there are more important things than the present state of your "salvation."

Do you expend any effort fighting the real consequences suffered by nonbelievers as a result of religion? For example, you pay more income taxes because of the tax exemption afforded religious contributions. In a sense, this has nonbelievers supporting churches by paying more than their fair share.

The consequence that irks me the most is the murder of innocent children. Most Christian organizations teach that children who die in their innocent years go immediately to heaven for eternity. Whenever a depressed Christian mother acts on these teachings these organizations are quick to provide positive feedback by stating that the children are indeed in heaven. Shouldn't these organizations be held liable the next time a depressed Christian mother sacrifices her children based on their teachings?

[Cathar1950]

As a debater:

No marriage in heaven, does not necessarily mean that there is no sex in heaven. Lots of people and just about every other species manage to have sex without marriage. Maybe heaven is one giant orgy. Why not?

I have often wondered the same thing.
But remember crazy Paul that felt the women should wear vales during prayer so the angels don't lust after them?
Maybe it wasn't Paul's real letters.
But it comes from the Enoch writings I believe.
Or one of those of that type left out of the canon and qquoted by some in the canon.

[myth-one.com]

But remember crazy Paul that felt the women should wear vales during prayer so the angels don't lust after them?

"Angels" in this context probably refers to other children of God and ministers at the churches where the women went to pray. After all, real angels can go anywhere since they are not restrained by physical laws - as are men. Angels could lust after women at any time regardless of the location. I can imagine bath time being especially tempting. Whereas priests, pastors, rabbis, and other men of God "hung out" at the churches where Paul noticed the problem. Of course, these ministers at church can lust at other times as well, but it is especially important that they do not lust in God's house. Many of these people hold positions of power in the community and may use that power to take advantage. Any reason to add that the problem still arises to this day?

Crazy Paul might be a little strong, but as indicated in his writings, I agree that Paul may have suffered from some destructive compulsive behavior. Paul could have been a womanizer and personally lusted after the women praying in church. This is discussed in the short article The Apostle Paul And Compulsive Behavior. The amazing point of the article is that God gave this thorn to Paul to make him weak! Why? Short but too large to insert here.