The Biblical God's conduct and culpability

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The Biblical God's conduct and culpability

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:16 pm
Candle wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:03 pm If, as you say, "All sentient biological beings feel pain and that gives us rights," from where do those rights come, and what is there to ensure that they are not violated?
Those rights come from entities capable of taking em away.

There's no assurance a right enjoyed today ain't taken away tomorrow.
What entities are they? Are they ghosts? Are they aliens? Surely, you have SOME idea where your rights originate.

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Candle wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:54 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:16 pm
Candle wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:03 pm If, as you say, "All sentient biological beings feel pain and that gives us rights," from where do those rights come, and what is there to ensure that they are not violated?
Those rights come from entities capable of taking em away.

There's no assurance a right enjoyed today ain't taken away tomorrow.
What entities are they? Are they ghosts? Are they aliens? Surely, you have SOME idea where your rights originate.
Government is one source, among others such as work places, and the pretty thing.

Where do you think we get em?
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
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JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:22 pm
Candle wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:54 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:16 pm
Candle wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:03 pm If, as you say, "All sentient biological beings feel pain and that gives us rights," from where do those rights come, and what is there to ensure that they are not violated?
Those rights come from entities capable of taking em away.

There's no assurance a right enjoyed today ain't taken away tomorrow.
What entities are they? Are they ghosts? Are they aliens? Surely, you have SOME idea where your rights originate.
Government is one source, among others such as work places, and the pretty thing.

Where do you think we get em?
According to the Constitution, our rights come from out Creator. No government grants you rights. They can only take them.

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Candle wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:44 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:22 pm
Candle wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:54 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:16 pm
Candle wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:03 pm If, as you say, "All sentient biological beings feel pain and that gives us rights," from where do those rights come, and what is there to ensure that they are not violated?
Those rights come from entities capable of taking em away.

There's no assurance a right enjoyed today ain't taken away tomorrow.
What entities are they? Are they ghosts? Are they aliens? Surely, you have SOME idea where your rights originate.
Government is one source, among others such as work places, and the pretty thing.

Where do you think we get em?
According to the Constitution, our rights come from out Creator. No government grants you rights. They can only take them.
Until one can show a god exists and has an opinion on the matter, rights're bound to humans who either let others have em, or they don't.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
-Punkinhead Martin

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Candle wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:03 pm Pharaoh was not punished for hardening his heart. He was punished for mistreating the children of Israel and refusing to let them leave. All the hardening of his heart was merely a means to an end.
Considering the plagues he inflicted, God effectively punished all of Egypt for the actions of one man. Now where have I seen something like that before? Yahweh/Jehovah/God is the ultimate one-trick pony.

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:29 pm
Candle wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:44 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:22 pm
Candle wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:54 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:16 pm
Candle wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:03 pm If, as you say, "All sentient biological beings feel pain and that gives us rights," from where do those rights come, and what is there to ensure that they are not violated?
Those rights come from entities capable of taking em away.

There's no assurance a right enjoyed today ain't taken away tomorrow.
What entities are they? Are they ghosts? Are they aliens? Surely, you have SOME idea where your rights originate.
Government is one source, among others such as work places, and the pretty thing.

Where do you think we get em?
According to the Constitution, our rights come from out Creator. No government grants you rights. They can only take them.
Until one can show a god exists and has an opinion on the matter, rights're bound to humans who either let others have em, or they don't.
If your rights are granted to you by another human, you are their slave. They own you.

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Candle wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:19 pm If your rights are granted to you by another human, you are their slave. They own you.
Welcome to society.
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JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:45 pm
Candle wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:19 pm If your rights are granted to you by another human, you are their slave. They own you.
Welcome to society.
Not the one I live in.

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Candle wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:41 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:45 pm
Candle wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:19 pm If your rights are granted to you by another human, you are their slave. They own you.
Welcome to society.
Not the one I live in.
You may be lucky enough to live in a van down by the river, but the rest of us're beholden to humans for our rights.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
-Punkinhead Martin

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