Is the Cannon of Scripture Closed?
If so by whom?
Who had the authority to close and strop revelations from God?
Approximately on what date did this occur?
Is the Cannon of Scripture Closed?
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Re: Is the Cannon of Scripture Closed?
Post #31Apparently, not all "Mormons" are "LDS proper", or even LDS. I guess Joseph Smith, or Bringham Young were not "proper", when taking many wives from other men, and having many wives necessary for Mormons to get their own kingdom on some distant planet. I guess in your eyes, the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation. By the way, what are the new Mormon "privileges and blessings"? Having Rome determine one's dogma, seems a little regressive. (Revelation 17:3)Tcg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:51 pmThe LDS proper ended the practice of polygamy more than 100 years ago:2ndpillar2 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:15 pm
What are the "blessings" or "privileges" attached to being called a high priest? Do they get a pay raise, 3 extra wives, or a free car wash?
Whatever the "blessings" or "privileges" involve they wouldn't include extra wives.Mormonism and polygamy
In 1890, when it became clear that Utah would not be admitted to the Union while polygamy was still practiced, church president Wilford Woodruff issued a Manifesto that officially terminated the practice of polygamy. Although this Manifesto did not dissolve existing plural marriages, relations with the United States markedly improved after 1890, such that Utah was admitted as a U.S. state in 1896. After the Manifesto, some church members continued to enter into polygamous marriages, but these eventually stopped in 1904 when church president Joseph F. Smith disavowed polygamy before Congress and issued a "Second Manifesto," calling for all plural marriages in the church to cease, and established excommunication as the consequence for those who disobeyed. Several small "fundamentalist" groups, seeking to continue the practice, split from the LDS Church, including the Apostolic United Brethren (AUB) and the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS Church). Meanwhile, the LDS Church continues its policy of excommunicating members found practicing polygamy, and today actively seeks to distance itself from fundamentalist groups that continue the practice. On its website, the church states that "the standard doctrine of the church is monogamy" and that polygamy was a temporary exception to the rule.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_polygamy
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Re: Is the Cannon of Scripture Closed?
Post #32Peace to you!
Anything written OR spoken (in the past, present or future) should be held up against the Light (John 8:12; 1John 4:1).
As for scripture, scripture itself is that which has been given/received in the spirit (inspired). So the Prophets, the Psalms, Moses (Christ named these as scripture; Luke 24:44-45). Revelation is also scripture (which is inspired), since John received everything in the spirit, from Christ, and he was commanded to write it all down. On the other hand, the four gospels are testimonial accounts of what the authors personally witnessed (in the case of "John"), or what the authors wrote down as received from others who were eyewitnesses (as in the case of Luke).
Christ said nothing about 'canon of scripture' being opened or closed - so it seems to me that men are just going by personal tradition on that entire thing - and it misses the entire point. Christ HIMSELF teaches and disciplines and leads His sheep. He is alive, a LIVING Teacher. Not a dead teacher who cannot 'teach' except according to words written in 'textbooks'. We are supposed to be looking to HIM, listening to HIM, to HIS voice, following HIM.
Even the "canon" that people accept shows that Christ is willing and able to lead, teach, speak to, His sheep after His resurrection and ascension. This truth is in the very book that they claim to be the 'word of God'. And the claim by some that He no longer does that (speak) is ENTIRELY a FALSE doctrine of men... men WHO ADMITTEDLY DO NOT hear His voice. Otherwise, they would know better than to speak such a LIE. But since THEY do not hear Christ, they FALSELY claim that NO ONE can hear Him. Absurd.
As for scripture, Christ even said:
"You diligently search the scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to COME TO ME to have life."
Life is not in the scriptures and/or the bible. Life is in Christ.
May anyone who wishes them be given ears to hear, so as to hear the truth of these matters from the One who IS the Truth: Christ Jaheshua. May anyone who wishes, hear as the Spirit (Christ) and the Bride SAY to you, "Come!" May anyone who thirsts and anyone who wishes, "Come! Take the free gift of the water of Life!"
(which water is holy spirit, poured out from Christ, given to Him without end from His Father)
Peace again to you and to you all,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
I'm not sure it matters, considering that we are supposed to be listening to the true and actual Word of God: Christ Jaheshua. The Word of God WHO is alive, and who speaks and leads His sheep into all truth.
Anything written OR spoken (in the past, present or future) should be held up against the Light (John 8:12; 1John 4:1).
As for scripture, scripture itself is that which has been given/received in the spirit (inspired). So the Prophets, the Psalms, Moses (Christ named these as scripture; Luke 24:44-45). Revelation is also scripture (which is inspired), since John received everything in the spirit, from Christ, and he was commanded to write it all down. On the other hand, the four gospels are testimonial accounts of what the authors personally witnessed (in the case of "John"), or what the authors wrote down as received from others who were eyewitnesses (as in the case of Luke).
Christ said nothing about 'canon of scripture' being opened or closed - so it seems to me that men are just going by personal tradition on that entire thing - and it misses the entire point. Christ HIMSELF teaches and disciplines and leads His sheep. He is alive, a LIVING Teacher. Not a dead teacher who cannot 'teach' except according to words written in 'textbooks'. We are supposed to be looking to HIM, listening to HIM, to HIS voice, following HIM.
Even the "canon" that people accept shows that Christ is willing and able to lead, teach, speak to, His sheep after His resurrection and ascension. This truth is in the very book that they claim to be the 'word of God'. And the claim by some that He no longer does that (speak) is ENTIRELY a FALSE doctrine of men... men WHO ADMITTEDLY DO NOT hear His voice. Otherwise, they would know better than to speak such a LIE. But since THEY do not hear Christ, they FALSELY claim that NO ONE can hear Him. Absurd.
As for scripture, Christ even said:
"You diligently search the scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to COME TO ME to have life."
Life is not in the scriptures and/or the bible. Life is in Christ.
May anyone who wishes them be given ears to hear, so as to hear the truth of these matters from the One who IS the Truth: Christ Jaheshua. May anyone who wishes, hear as the Spirit (Christ) and the Bride SAY to you, "Come!" May anyone who thirsts and anyone who wishes, "Come! Take the free gift of the water of Life!"
(which water is holy spirit, poured out from Christ, given to Him without end from His Father)
Peace again to you and to you all,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
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Re: Is the Cannon of Scripture Closed?
Post #33You asked a question about information you found from a website of the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints." That's the LDS not Mormons in general. Bringham Young died in 1877. Jospeh Smith, Jr. died in 1844. For obvious reasons neither were active during the events of 1904 which I documented above. For the same reasons neither are active in the LDS today.2ndpillar2 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:12 amApparently, not all "Mormons" are "LDS proper", or even LDS. I guess Joseph Smith, or Bringham Young were not "proper", when taking many wives from other men, and having many wives necessary for Mormons to get their own kingdom on some distant planet. I guess in your eyes, the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation. By the way, what are the new Mormon "privileges and blessings"? Having Rome determine one's dogma, seems a little regressive. (Revelation 17:3)Tcg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:51 pmThe LDS proper ended the practice of polygamy more than 100 years ago:2ndpillar2 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:15 pm
What are the "blessings" or "privileges" attached to being called a high priest? Do they get a pay raise, 3 extra wives, or a free car wash?
Whatever the "blessings" or "privileges" involve they wouldn't include extra wives.Mormonism and polygamy
In 1890, when it became clear that Utah would not be admitted to the Union while polygamy was still practiced, church president Wilford Woodruff issued a Manifesto that officially terminated the practice of polygamy. Although this Manifesto did not dissolve existing plural marriages, relations with the United States markedly improved after 1890, such that Utah was admitted as a U.S. state in 1896. After the Manifesto, some church members continued to enter into polygamous marriages, but these eventually stopped in 1904 when church president Joseph F. Smith disavowed polygamy before Congress and issued a "Second Manifesto," calling for all plural marriages in the church to cease, and established excommunication as the consequence for those who disobeyed. Several small "fundamentalist" groups, seeking to continue the practice, split from the LDS Church, including the Apostolic United Brethren (AUB) and the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS Church). Meanwhile, the LDS Church continues its policy of excommunicating members found practicing polygamy, and today actively seeks to distance itself from fundamentalist groups that continue the practice. On its website, the church states that "the standard doctrine of the church is monogamy" and that polygamy was a temporary exception to the rule.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_polygamy
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I have no idea how Hunter Biden's laptop or Rome are relevant to the fact that LDS no longer practices polygamy and therefore getting extra wives couldn't possibly be one of the "privileges and blessings" you are so curious about.
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Re: Is the Cannon of Scripture Closed?
Post #34To All Respondents,
Who had the authority to close the Canon of scriptures and strop revelations from God?
Can you name this individual?
Can you give the date of this closure of scripture?
Can you show by what power and authority this was done?
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Who had the authority to close the Canon of scriptures and strop revelations from God?
Can you name this individual?
Can you give the date of this closure of scripture?
Can you show by what power and authority this was done?
Best regards,
RW
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Re: Is the Cannon of Scripture Closed?
Post #35To all parties,
Does the Bible contain all the words of the Lord given to man?
Will the Lord GOD of Israel yet send latter days prophets to prophesy?
After the Lord’s resurrection I believe he retuned to the earth for approximately 40 days and taught many things pertaining to the kingdom of god to the apostles. Where are those teachings found in the Bible?
In the book of Revelation we are informed that the Apostle John will:
“Revelation Revelation 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.”.
Where are these prophecies recorded?
Also where do we have the record of these two prophets as found in
Revelation 11:
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And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
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These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
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And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
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These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
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And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
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And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
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And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10
And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
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And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
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And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
These two prophets will prophesy 1260 days in Jerusalem so it is obvious that the Lord will yet send at a future time two mighty prophets which will be endowed with great powers.
Kind regards,
RW
Does the Bible contain all the words of the Lord given to man?
Will the Lord GOD of Israel yet send latter days prophets to prophesy?
After the Lord’s resurrection I believe he retuned to the earth for approximately 40 days and taught many things pertaining to the kingdom of god to the apostles. Where are those teachings found in the Bible?
In the book of Revelation we are informed that the Apostle John will:
“Revelation Revelation 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.”.
Where are these prophecies recorded?
Also where do we have the record of these two prophets as found in
Revelation 11:
3
And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4
These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5
And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6
These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7
And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8
And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9
And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10
And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11
And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12
And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
These two prophets will prophesy 1260 days in Jerusalem so it is obvious that the Lord will yet send at a future time two mighty prophets which will be endowed with great powers.
Kind regards,
RW
Re: Is the Cannon of Scripture Closed?
Post #36[Replying to Revelations won in post #1]
Yes, it's closed. It is because whenever you heard about God and His witnesses (mostly the prophets and etc.), it's all about the updating of existing covenants to a better one. So it is closed as long as you can't find out a better covenant.
The New Covenant is with the Law part minimized while the Grace part maximized. So it's final.
Yes, it's closed. It is because whenever you heard about God and His witnesses (mostly the prophets and etc.), it's all about the updating of existing covenants to a better one. So it is closed as long as you can't find out a better covenant.
The New Covenant is with the Law part minimized while the Grace part maximized. So it's final.