How to become an angel!

[myth-one.com]

Two type of bodies are defined in the Bible, natural and spiritual (I Corinthians 15:44). Man is a natural bodied being and God and the angels are spiritual bodied beings (John 3:6). All men will die (Hebrews 9:27), and all spiritual bodied beings will live forever. (Luke 20:36).

The two testaments of the Bible are covenants or wills between God and mankind. The inheritance which heirs receive under either covenant is everlasting life. Each Bible testament describes the path to everlasting life for mankind under that particular covenant.

The path to eternal life under the first covenant was to never sin (Romans 6:23). However, there was a fault in the first testament in that all mankind sinned! (Romans 5:12) Since the first covenant contained a fault, God created a second or New Testament (Hebrews 3:6).

Under the New Testament Covenant, one must believe in Jesus as their Savior to gain everlasting life (John 3:16). Here is how that came to be:

The Word (a Spirit) was made flesh as the man Jesus Christ (John 1:14). Being a man (1Timothy 2:5), Jesus was included as a possible beneficiary under the original covenant between God and mankind.

In fact, Jesus became the only human to become an heir to immortality under the Old Testament Covenant! (1 Timothy 6:16).

His future inheritance belongs solely to Him, it is His possession, He owns it! And He is the only human that "hath immortality" as an inheritance.

But Jesus freely chooses to offer His inheritance as a gift to humans who believe in Him as their Savior. This is codified in the New Testament Covenant! (John 3:16)

But how can the one everlasting life which is Jesus' inheritance be distributed to more that one believer? Here's how that is justified in the scriptures:

Since many sinned due to one man (Adam), it is only fair that likewise many should be saved by the gift of everlasting life offered freely by the one man, Jesus Christ. (Romans 5:15)

Once the Word was made flesh as Jesus, Jesus had no choice but to die His first death – as it is appointed unto man once to die. So Jesus’ death, while required, is not what saves us.

What saves us is that Jesus offers His just inheritance of everlasting spiritual life received by His living a sinless life under the Old Testament Covenant to those humans who accept Him as their Savior from the wages of their sins under the New Testament Covenant.

Believers receive their inheritance of everlasting life by being born again of the Spirit (John 3:6) at the second Coming (Romans 5:15).

Conclusion: Whosoever believeth shall be born again of the Spirit, as a spirit, into the spiritual Kingdom of God, at the Second Coming. When this occurs, we will become equal unto the angels.

That is how any human may become an angel.

If you want to debate the above explanation, please do so with scripture references to support your claims.

[myth-one.com]

Jesus, the Word, was a spirit and became human.

The Word was made flesh as the human Jesus Christ because the immortal Word could not die!

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. (Hebrews 2:9)

If the Word could fulfil the mission required of Jesus, there would have been no need for Jesus.

But the Word could not complete the mission required of Jesus -- as the Word cannot die, being a spirit.

Being completely a man, Jesus could die.

[2timothy316]

Jesus, the Word, was a spirit and became human.

The Word was made flesh as the human Jesus Christ because the immortal Word could not die!

That is not what the Bible says.

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. (Hebrews 2:9)

If the Word could fulfil the mission required of Jesus, there would have been no need for Jesus.

But the Word could not complete the mission required of Jesus -- as the Word cannot die, being a spirit.

Being completely a man, Jesus could die.

So you're dogma is at odds with the Bible then. Nowhere does it say that the Word cannot die or that spirits can't die. Read Hebrews 2:9 with the following scripture. They harmonize.
"Keep this mental attitude in you that was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God. No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human." Philippians 2:5-7
Jesus BECAME human, which means that before he was human he was something else. What else could he have been but a spirit.

Jesus, is the Word, and he became a human to fulfill the mission. The Bible supports that. And yes Jesus was completely a man. I don't dispute that. But your dogma that a spirit can't die isn't proven. You repeating it doesn't make it true.

[myth-one.com]

But your dogma that a spirit can't die isn't proven. You repeating it doesn't make it true.

God is a Spirit:

Can God die?

[onewithhim]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #34]
"The Word" was Jesus.

The Word is God and existed from the beginning:

"The beginning" is the beginning of the creation of the earth with humans on it. The Word is Jesus Christ.

[2timothy316]

But your dogma that a spirit can't die isn't proven. You repeating it doesn't make it true.

God is a Spirit:

Can God die?

All angels are spirits, so they are all God?

What you're displaying is called a formal fallacy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_fallacy

Example of a formal fallacy: Im a human and a Jehovah's Witness. That means all humans are Jehovah's Witnesses.

Did you know there is no scripture that says God can't die? If there is one thing that the Bible is clear on, death doesn't mean it's the end if the Almighty God wants them to live.
Its seems you're a slave to the fear of death. Hebrews 2:14-15
To Almighty God death is like the man-flu.

[myth-one.com]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #34]
"The Word" was Jesus.

The Word is God and existed from the beginning:

"The beginning" is the beginning of the creation of the earth with humans on it. The Word is Jesus Christ.

The creation of Adam and Eve can be traced back to about 6,000 years.

6,000 years ago was only the beginning of Adam & Eve -- not the beginning of everything.

Our universe is about 13.787±0.020 billion years old.

And one can ask what happened before our universe began.

So the creation of humans was long after the original creation of even the earth -- which was created only 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years ago.

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Mankind thinks too highly of themselves. There is good evidence that mankind may turn out to be the dumbest animal ever created.

We're rapidly destroying the only know place in the universe where we can survive.

[myth-one.com]

All angels are spirits, so they are all God?

They are all immortal spiritual beings living within the Kingdom of God. Yes, they are gods:

I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

All angels are immortal spiritual gods, where a god is a being in the Kingdom of God. God the Father is God with a capital "G".

But your dogma that a spirit can't die isn't proven. You repeating it doesn't make it true.

Speaking of those humans who shall inherit the Kingdom of God in the world to come, Jesus states:

Neither can they die any more, for they are equal unto the angels...

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There is only one difference between mankind and the angels. That one difference is body type -- natural verses spiritual. And the only different characteristic between the two body types is longevity -- mortal verses immortal.

[William]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #3]

John 4:24 wrote:
God is a Spirit: . . ..
And when we are born of the Spirit, we become spirits, because:
John 3:6 wrote:
. . . that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
So when believers are born again of the Spirit, we will become spiritual bodied angels.

From my own understanding [self awareness] what occurred was that humans forgot what they were [Spirit-breathed into biological matter] and identified only with the flesh-container and thought of themselves in that way - much like non-theists think of themselves as 'nothing more than chemical reactions of the brain'...or how some Christians think 'flesh that will be resurrected and given the ability to never die.'

Apparently these two views can both be biblically supported so perhaps the different authors were writing from the bias of their particular beliefs on the matter.

If one researches OOBEs and the like, one will find that practically everyone who ever experiences such, identify as being 'spirit' - a biblically supported idea, as you have pointed out - something biblical Jesus spoke of as a truth.

Those Christians who do not believe such a thing, often critique OOBEs and the like as 'demonic deception' a type of religious equivalent as the woo-slinging "delusional" which non-theists love to use to 'explain' why such experience doesn't fit with their own particular beliefs about what they self identify as being.

Being 'born of the spirit' is really about coming to the realization of what one truly is rather than remaining in ignorance of that.

[2timothy316]

All angels are spirits, so they are all God?

They are all immortal spiritual beings living within the Kingdom of God. Yes, they are gods:

I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

All angels are immortal spiritual gods, where a god is a being in the Kingdom of God. God the Father is God with a capital "G".

But your dogma that a spirit can't die isn't proven. You repeating it doesn't make it true.

Speaking of those humans who shall inherit the Kingdom of God in the world to come, Jesus states:

Neither can they die any more, for they are equal unto the angels...

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There is only one difference between mankind and the angels. That one difference is body type -- natural verses spiritual. And the only different characteristic between the two body types is longevity -- mortal verses immortal.

Yet humans can live forever as there will be no more death. So your comment on longevity is incorrect.
Rev 21:3, 4 says, “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

"He will swallow up* death forever, And the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will wipe away the tears from all faces. The reproach of his people he will take away from all the earth, For Jehovah himself has spoken it." - Is 25:8

[myth-one.com]

Yet humans can live forever as there will be no more death. So your comment on longevity is incorrect.

Good morning 2timothy316. No, my comment is correct. No human can live forever!

We are living in the day or age of man. Man was given dominion over the earth during the Genesis recreation. The day of man will end when the age of Jesus Christ's rule on earth begins. This occurs after completion of the second resurrection when every human being's case has been judged, and every human body has either been born again as a spiritual body into the Kingdom of God, or cast into the lake of fire and suffered the second death.

The case of every single human who has ever lived will have been accounted for, the reward given (eternal life when born again as a spirit), or the sentence carried out (the second death). Thus, when there are no more human beings alive, the age or day of man is over.

Since there are no more humans, there will be no more human deaths! Death and the grave are thus cast into the lake of fire and destroyed as prophesied:

The last enemy that shall be defeated is death.

Describing Christians who will be born again as spiritual beings, the Bible proclaims:

And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

The former things that are passed away are their physical bodies and all associated physical characteristics. These include death, sorrow, crying, pain, etc. "There shall be no more death," indicates they will become spiritual bodies equal unto the angels when born again at the Second Coming. "And there shall be no more death," is future tense.

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Yet humans can live forever as there will be no more death.

Your statement has it switched.

There will be no more death of humans because there will be no humans.