Checkpoint wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:11 pmJehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:48 pmWhat we need to know about Judgment Day is not where or when it is, but what it is and why it is, or will be.If you dont know (or claim to know but choose to provide no evidence that you do) , where and when judgement day is, there is no reason to accept your explanation about what it is?
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Both JW and I have explained what the Millennium will be.
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Post #113onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:17 pmCheckpoint wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:11 pmJehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:48 pmIf you dont know (or claim to know but choose to provide no evidence that you do) , where and when judgement day is, there is no reason to accept your explanation about what it is?
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JWWhat we need to know about Judgment Day is not where or when it is, but what it is and why it is, or will be.Right. You both have, so good for you two, on that count.Both JW and I have explained what the Millennium will be.
But the millennium is not the Day of Judgment, however many times you say it, hear it, read it, or think it.
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Post #114[Replying to Checkpoint in post #113]
I have to say---the Millennium IS also the day of judgment. It will be giving everyone the opportunity to make up their minds, during that thousand years, as to who they want to serve. There will be only good things happening during the thousand years, so it truly will be a time of rest and joy. At the END, however, there will be the final say and those that have decided in their hearts to go with Satan will go with him into eternal death and those that stand on Jehovah's side will then be able to live forever on the earth---a true "coming to life." That is the truth, and you can take it or not. Because you deny it doesn't make it untrue.
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I have to say---the Millennium IS also the day of judgment. It will be giving everyone the opportunity to make up their minds, during that thousand years, as to who they want to serve. There will be only good things happening during the thousand years, so it truly will be a time of rest and joy. At the END, however, there will be the final say and those that have decided in their hearts to go with Satan will go with him into eternal death and those that stand on Jehovah's side will then be able to live forever on the earth---a true "coming to life." That is the truth, and you can take it or not. Because you deny it doesn't make it untrue.
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Post #116onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:39 pm [Replying to Checkpoint in post #113]
I have to say---the Millennium IS also the day of judgment. It will be giving everyone the opportunity to make up their minds, during that thousand years, as to who they want to serve. There will be only good things happening during the thousand years, so it truly will be a time of rest and joy. At the END, however, there will be the final say and those that have decided in their hearts to go with Satan will go with him into eternal death and those that stand on Jehovah's side will then be able to live forever on the earth---a true "coming to life." That is the truth, and you can take it or not. Because you deny it doesn't make it untrue.
Well now, onewithhim, I've got to give it to you, you do have a nice story to tell, and you do it each time with such utter confidence.
You take it, hook, line, and sinker, whereas I do not.
Whether we take it or leave it doesn't make it untrue or true.
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Post #117Yes, I take it hook, line and sinker. I am happy to witness for Jesus and his Father, Jehovah, in association with their wonderful organization.Checkpoint wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:48 pmonewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:39 pm [Replying to Checkpoint in post #113]
I have to say---the Millennium IS also the day of judgment. It will be giving everyone the opportunity to make up their minds, during that thousand years, as to who they want to serve. There will be only good things happening during the thousand years, so it truly will be a time of rest and joy. At the END, however, there will be the final say and those that have decided in their hearts to go with Satan will go with him into eternal death and those that stand on Jehovah's side will then be able to live forever on the earth---a true "coming to life." That is the truth, and you can take it or not. Because you deny it doesn't make it untrue.
Well now, onewithhim, I've got to give it to you, you do have a nice story to tell, and you do it each time with such utter confidence.
You take it, hook, line, and sinker, whereas I do not.
Whether we take it or leave it doesn't make it untrue or true.
You're right....the truth is the truth whether we accept it or not.
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Post #118onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 12:11 pmCheckpoint wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:48 pmonewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:39 pm [Replying to Checkpoint in post #113]
I have to say---the Millennium IS also the day of judgment. It will be giving everyone the opportunity to make up their minds, during that thousand years, as to who they want to serve. There will be only good things happening during the thousand years, so it truly will be a time of rest and joy. At the END, however, there will be the final say and those that have decided in their hearts to go with Satan will go with him into eternal death and those that stand on Jehovah's side will then be able to live forever on the earth---a true "coming to life." That is the truth, and you can take it or not. Because you deny it doesn't make it untrue.
Well now, onewithhim, I've got to give it to you, you do have a nice story to tell, and you do it each time with such utter confidence.
You take it, hook, line, and sinker, whereas I do not.
Whether we take it or leave it doesn't make it untrue or true.Yes, I take it hook, line and sinker. I am happy to witness for Jesus and his Father, Jehovah, in association with their wonderful organization.
You're right....the truth is the truth whether we accept it or not.
Ah yes, "the truth".
The one mentioned in Jude 3, in the passage I quoted from Romans 2. Not the one that came from the "wonderful organization" you mentioned.
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Post #119Checkpoint wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:04 pmSo you are saying that the organization is teaching un-truths? Tell me, what basic truths are we lying about? Are we lying about who God is? Do we dismiss Jesus as insignificant? Are we lying when we point out that the Bible does not teach a literal hell-fire? What are the lies?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 12:11 pmCheckpoint wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:48 pmonewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:39 pm [Replying to Checkpoint in post #113]
I have to say---the Millennium IS also the day of judgment. It will be giving everyone the opportunity to make up their minds, during that thousand years, as to who they want to serve. There will be only good things happening during the thousand years, so it truly will be a time of rest and joy. At the END, however, there will be the final say and those that have decided in their hearts to go with Satan will go with him into eternal death and those that stand on Jehovah's side will then be able to live forever on the earth---a true "coming to life." That is the truth, and you can take it or not. Because you deny it doesn't make it untrue.
Well now, onewithhim, I've got to give it to you, you do have a nice story to tell, and you do it each time with such utter confidence.
You take it, hook, line, and sinker, whereas I do not.
Whether we take it or leave it doesn't make it untrue or true.Yes, I take it hook, line and sinker. I am happy to witness for Jesus and his Father, Jehovah, in association with their wonderful organization.
You're right....the truth is the truth whether we accept it or not.
Ah yes, "the truth".
The one mentioned in Jude 3, in the passage I quoted from Romans 2. Not the one that came from the "wonderful organization" you mentioned.
This organization teaches nothing unless it comes from the Bible. And we go all the way back to the original languages, unlike many versions today. Even the KJV goes only as far back as the Latin Vulgate. Everything Jehovah's Witnesses teach is backed up solidly from the Bible.
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Post #120onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:22 amCheckpoint wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:04 pmonewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 12:11 pmCheckpoint wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:48 pmonewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:39 pm [Replying to Checkpoint in post #113]
I have to say---the Millennium IS also the day of judgment. It will be giving everyone the opportunity to make up their minds, during that thousand years, as to who they want to serve. There will be only good things happening during the thousand years, so it truly will be a time of rest and joy. At the END, however, there will be the final say and those that have decided in their hearts to go with Satan will go with him into eternal death and those that stand on Jehovah's side will then be able to live forever on the earth---a true "coming to life." That is the truth, and you can take it or not. Because you deny it doesn't make it untrue.
Well now, onewithhim, I've got to give it to you, you do have a nice story to tell, and you do it each time with such utter confidence.
You take it, hook, line, and sinker, whereas I do not.
Whether we take it or leave it doesn't make it untrue or true.Yes, I take it hook, line and sinker. I am happy to witness for Jesus and his Father, Jehovah, in association with their wonderful organization.
You're right....the truth is the truth whether we accept it or not.Ah yes, "the truth".
The one mentioned in Jude 3, in the passage I quoted from Romans 2. Not the one that came from the "wonderful organization" you mentioned.In this exchange, I am referring only to the subject we are discussing, which is Judgment Day.So you are saying that the organization is teaching un-truths? Tell me, what basic truths are we lying about? Are we lying about who God is? Do we dismiss Jesus as insignificant? Are we lying when we point out that the Bible does not teach a literal hell-fire? What are the lies?
This organization teaches nothing unless it comes from the Bible. And we go all the way back to the original languages, unlike many versions today. Even the KJV goes only as far back as the Latin Vulgate. Everything Jehovah's Witnesses teach is backed up solidly from the Bible.
I do so by quoting Scripture and comparing it with what others say about it.