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Help me out here because I don't remember a thing aboutScalamilano wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:16 am Noah warned the people about the flood, but they did not listen to him. Some laughed at Noah, while others hated him. It is also essential to know that the demons are the same angels who materialized by becoming human and married women in Noah's day. When the flood came, their wives and children died; and those rebellious angels were forced back into the spiritual realm. They had no more place in God's organization but were cast down into Tartarus, a state of deep darkness, cut off from God's light (2 Peter 2:4, 5). They operate under Satan's direction and continue to come into close contact with humans. Although they can no longer materialize, they try to influence men, women, and even children. Part of this happens through the occult. Demons encourage people to destroy each other in ways that defy human reason.
By ignoring what offends and latching on to that which doesn't. Belief is very simple to obtain.How can anyone who claims to love God believe the worst things said about him, i.e. the negative Bible rumors?
Sorry, but speculation presented as fact simply doesn't sell in my neighborhood. Might want to try the Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons down the block. I hear they're willing to consider just about anything.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:47 pm [Replying to Miles in post #52]
We take the Bible as a whole. In the Christian Greek Scriptures Noah is called "a preacher of righteousness (2 Peter 2:5), therefore he must have been telling the people what was coming. The people must have laughed at him to some degree because they didn't take him seriously, did they? After all, it had never rained before.
Miles wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:07 pmSorry, but speculation presented as fact simply doesn't sell in my neighborhood. Might want to try the Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons down the block. I hear they're willing to consider just about anything.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:47 pm [Replying to Miles in post #52]
We take the Bible as a whole. In the Christian Greek Scriptures Noah is called "a preacher of righteousness (2 Peter 2:5), therefore he must have been telling the people what was coming. The people must have laughed at him to some degree because they didn't take him seriously, did they? After all, it had never rained before.
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Why would anyone think there's scriptural rebuttal to speculation? Speculate away, but as I say, don't try selling it as fact.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:21 pmMiles wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:07 pmSorry, but speculation presented as fact simply doesn't sell in my neighborhood. Might want to try the Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons down the block. I hear they're willing to consider just about anything.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:47 pm [Replying to Miles in post #52]
We take the Bible as a whole. In the Christian Greek Scriptures Noah is called "a preacher of righteousness (2 Peter 2:5), therefore he must have been telling the people what was coming. The people must have laughed at him to some degree because they didn't take him seriously, did they? After all, it had never rained before.
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It is good sound reasoning, taking into consideration ALL scripture. Can you present scriptural rebuttal to what I have posted?
Why not? You're no better than they are, are you? Or are Jehovah's Witnesses better than everyone else?And please don't link us Jehovah's Witnesses with Mormons.
No. Who said anything about be better?
Why else would you complain?
But in many cases they do. And as I see them, JWs and Mormons comprise, in part, a group of Christian outliers that have positioned themselves away from main stream Christianity.It's that they don't teach what we do.
Depends on their reason, I guess. And as in the instance here, I feel it can be quite reasonable.Would you like it someone linked you to a group that you don't agree with or support what they teach?
Similarities is not a good reason to dump two groups together and call them the same thing. It's where we differ that is very important. Like human DNA and banana DNA. Sure we share 50% of similar strands with a banana. We also share 85 percent DNA with a mouse and 61 percent with a fruitfly. So would you like me to view as a mouse or is where we differ really important?Miles wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:57 pmWhy else would you complain?
But in many cases they do. And as I see them, JWs and Mormons comprise, in part, a group of Christian outliers that have positioned themselves away from main stream Christianity.It's that they don't teach what we do.
In this case it is not reasonable if the reason is to paint who people with broad strokes. I know many atheists wouldn't like to likened to Kim Jong Un just because Kim Jong Un believes some of the things atheists do. So lumping religious groups together because of some similarities isn't wise.Depends on their reason, I guess. And as in the instance here, I feel it can be quite reasonable.Would you like it someone linked you to a group that you don't agree with or support what they teach?
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Which is why I didn't call them that.2timothy316 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:33 pmSimilarities is not a good reason to dump two groups together and call them the same thing.Miles wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:57 pmWhy else would you complain?
But in many cases they do. And as I see them, JWs and Mormons comprise, in part, a group of Christian outliers that have positioned themselves away from main stream Christianity.It's that they don't teach what we do.
If the broad strokes apply it certainly is, which in this case they do.In this case it is not reasonable if the reason is to paint who people with broad strokes.Depends on their reason, I guess. And as in the instance here, I feel it can be quite reasonable.Would you like it someone linked you to a group that you don't agree with or support what they teach?
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And just what is it you think all atheists believe? As far as I know the only thing most atheists have in common is a lack of belief in the existence of god, which doesn't amount to belief, but is simply a position---lack of belief does not amount to belief. Although, a few atheists do go so far as to deny god's existence.I know many atheists wouldn't like to likened to Kim Jong Un just because Kim Jong Un believes some of the things atheists do.
If it serves to clarify an issue, why not?So lumping religious groups together because of some similarities isn't wise.
