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How many will be saved?

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In [url=http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=82051#82051] Is there any sense in the core message of the Gospel?[/url], Goose wrote:To say that anyone not hearing the Gospel is going to hell and therfore the plan is flawed is based on the assumption that God is unjust. But he is just and I'm sure there is a back up plan. He will judge those people that have never heard the Gospel in the manner in which they've lived their life against the moral values he has placed in us. Roman 2:11- 16
Romans 2:11-16 wrote:For there is no partiality with God.
For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified.
For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus.
Goose wrote:Because of this, I assume there will be more people in Heaven than only the ones who have accepted Christ. I believe only those that have heard the Gospel, evaluated it, and ultimately rejected Christ will perish according to scripture. So if you look at the "numbers" of people going to heaven, taking into account Romans 2, there should be far more people in heaven than not. Assuming of course the people not exposed to the Gospel live a good moral life.
Questions for debate: According to the Bible, how many ways are there to get to heaven without explicitly accepting Christ in your lifetime?
According to the Bible, what proportion of humans will be saved? A small minority? Less than half? More than half? Most of us? Almost all? Everyone?
Or is it that the Bible does not address this question?
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Re: Salvation of the few

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beloved57 wrote:
Cathar1950 wrote:
beloved57 wrote:
franknhonest wrote:It's been a while since I've been on this forum, and I've turned into a deist since then.

According to the Bible, although the number of the saved be a vast multitude, in comparison to the number of people who have ever lived, it is only a small percentage. A remnant.

Yes, that is correct..
How do you know it is correct? Don't you mean, "I believe that"?
Whats the difference ? I obviously believe its correct, duh..
Yes it is obvious but that does not make it so.
There are traditions that say every one will be saved and others that say no one will be saved.
You can make both cases with the bible.
Before prophecy was used by the Christians they assumed only a remnant of Israel would survive to rule over the whole earth.
On the other hand it seems some view God as an ineffeciant saving machine.
A God that makes to many bricks to make a building and has to toss some away as I have heard it told.
C. S. Lewis figured the moment someone makes it to heaven they will start a rescue mission for those in hell. It seems when a group of believers are under pressure they like to imagine hell for their enemies and worse for those in the family with a difference of opinion.
Like they say on Southpark, "It is the Mormons, the correct answer is the Mormons."

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Re: Salvation of the few

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Cathar1950 wrote:
beloved57 wrote:
Cathar1950 wrote:
beloved57 wrote:
franknhonest wrote:It's been a while since I've been on this forum, and I've turned into a deist since then.

According to the Bible, although the number of the saved be a vast multitude, in comparison to the number of people who have ever lived, it is only a small percentage. A remnant.

Yes, that is correct..
How do you know it is correct? Don't you mean, "I believe that"?
Whats the difference ? I obviously believe its correct, duh..
Yes it is obvious but that does not make it so.
There are traditions that say every one will be saved and others that say no one will be saved.
You can make both cases with the bible.
Before prophecy was used by the Christians they assumed only a remnant of Israel would survive to rule over the whole earth.
On the other hand it seems some view God as an ineffeciant saving machine.
A God that makes to many bricks to make a building and has to toss some away as I have heard it told.
C. S. Lewis figured the moment someone makes it to heaven they will start a rescue mission for those in hell. It seems when a group of believers are under pressure they like to imagine hell for their enemies and worse for those in the family with a difference of opinion.
Like they say on Southpark, "It is the Mormons, the correct answer is the Mormons."
I am not talking about everyone eleses belief , I am talking about mine..

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