The Proud Boys

[Elijah John]

After the debate of Sept 29th, (and prior too) I hear an oft repeated charge that the "Proud Boys" are a "white supremacist" or a racist group. This charge is even repeated on Fox as an unquestioned assumption by the likes of Geraldo and Chris Wallace. But does such a charge bear the scrutiny of closer inspection and is that charge in line with the facts? Consider this from their New England chapter application:

Do you understand we are not a white nationalist organization and we will not tolerate white nationalists in our organization? *
Yes
No
Are you okay with the fact that we allow gay men into our fraternity? *
Yes
No
Do you understand that you must be a MAN to join our fraternity? *
Yes
No
Do you understand that we allow Blacks, Jews, Hispanics, Asians (That includes Indians), and Anyone into our fraternity regardless of race? *

For debate, how in the world is any of this "white supremacist"? Is it fair to label them as such? How so?

[koko]

Listen to the words of one of those Proud Boys:






Certainly not the words of a peace loving integrationist.

[koko]

meet the Proud Boys - note their actual words and actions:

[Bust Nak]

Do you understand we are not a white nationalist organization and we will not tolerate white nationalists in our organization? *
Are you okay with the fact that we allow gay men into our fraternity? *
Do you understand that we allow Blacks, Jews, Hispanics, Asians (That includes Indians), and Anyone into our fraternity regardless of race? *

Can you still join if you answer "no" to these questions?

For debate, how in the world is any of this "white supremacist"?

At a glance, it isn't.

Is it fair to label them as such? How so?

Don't particular care which brand of right wing extremists they are, but they called themselves "western chauvinists."

[koko]

those "Proud Boys":









these illustrations are based on the words & deeds of this radical, subversive group - none of their ideals represent Christian or true patriotic principles

[Diagoras]

After the debate of Sept 29th, (and prior too) I hear an oft repeated charge that the "Proud Boys" are a "white supremacist" or a racist group. This charge is even repeated on Fox as an unquestioned assumption by the likes of Geraldo and Chris Wallace. But does such a charge bear the scrutiny of closer inspection and is that charge in line with the facts?

Here's a fairly comprehensive summary of the Proud Boys:

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... proud-boys

Seems pretty clear to me: the Proud Boys try to carefully avoid the label, but all their actions and words certainly fit with a typical violent, racist group.