18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (Revelation 13:18)
gematria is a calculation, a number from a name, a word, a phrase. every letter has a number allocated. the amount of all numbers is the number allocated to that word. if in latin alphabet, you allocate to the letter z, the number 1 and to next letters in inverse order of the alphabet, you allocate 2,3,4, etc, until 10, then 10,20,30, etc, until 100, then 100,200,300, etc, until last letter a, the word (name) hitler is 666. h=100, i=90, t=7, l=60, e=400, r=9. this is one of many possible gematries. in "real" gematria, the hebrew alphabet, nero is the only famous person with the number 666.
caesar neron = nron qsr = × ×¨×•× ×§×¡×¨
resh (ר) samekh (ס) qoph (×§) nun (× ) vav (ו) resh (ר) nun (× )
200 + 60 + 100 + 50 + 6 + 200 + 50 = 666
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. (Revelation 17:8)
from this quote, we can understand the beast (666) will live two times. what similarities have hitler and nero? both they fought jews, both they killed themselves after they lost the war, both were the biggest killers in the history of humanity, nero killed paul and peter, in one word: 666. maybe God gave two chances to 666 to be a human, but he refused those.
who is 666? my opinion
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Re: who is 666? my opinion
Post #2cristian_gavrilescu wrote: from this quote, we can understand the beast (666) will live two times. what similarities have hitler and nero? both they fought jews, both they killed themselves after they lost the war, both were the biggest killers in the history of humanity, nero killed paul and peter, in one word: 666. maybe God gave two chances to 666 to be a human, but he refused those.
I dont think the beast represent Nero and Hilter
The BEAST is the same entity before and after a period of inactivity:
- - Hitler and Nero were different people (reincarnation is not a biblical teaching)
- Rome and Hitler's Third Reich are also two seperate and unrelated ruling powers powers
- Rome /Nero existed outside the timeframe of the prophecies application ("the Lords day)
- the beast exercises GLOBAL power which was arguably the case for Rome but not for Hitler's Third Reich
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I dont think the beast is two men at all ( for the reasons above), whether the "most evil" or not.
Alone a human cannot exercise the kind of global power this beast seems to have imposing a "mark" on every human on the planet. Even if it were an evil man, you'd just have to wait 70 or 80 years and he'd die anyway. No need for Jesus to return and slay it, time or a bad flu and "it" would die on its own.
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I dont think the beast is two men at all ( for the reasons above), whether the "most evil" or not.
Alone a human cannot exercise the kind of global power this beast seems to have imposing a "mark" on every human on the planet. Even if it were an evil man, you'd just have to wait 70 or 80 years and he'd die anyway. No need for Jesus to return and slay it, time or a bad flu and "it" would die on its own.
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20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. (Revelation 19:20)
please explain this to me
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It means both the false prophet and the wild beat will eventually be completely destroyed (By Jesus). The lake of fire signifying complete annihilation.
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It means both the false prophet and the wild beat will eventually be completely destroyed (By Jesus). The lake of fire signifying complete annihilation.
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Alive is the opposite of dead.cristian_gavrilescu wrote: were cast alive
what is alive?
Yes they were cast (which means thrown) alive into the lake. By the time they went under the surface they would be dead (it was after all a lake of fire - nothing lives long in fire).

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so you believe the false prophet and 666 are not the most evil men who ever lived?
they are the goodest? they are the weakest? who are they?
they are the goodest? they are the weakest? who are they?
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cristian_gavrilescu wrote: so you believe the false prophet and 666 are not the most evil men who ever lived?
they are the goodest? they are the weakest? who are they?
That is correct: I do not believe "the false prophet" and "666" are not the most evil men who ever lived
No, no.cristian_gavrilescu wrote:
they are the goodest? they are the weakest?
You're asking the wrong question. The question is not "who" ate they but "WHAT do they represent?"cristian_gavrilescu wrote: who are they?
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