Where is water baptism of Paul?

Yahwehismywitness · Post by **Yahwehismywitness** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:30 pm

Jesus says follow him at least 20 times in the gospels.
Jesus was water baptized Matthew 3:14:17
Must do for Holy Spirit promise

Was name change a substitute?

brianbbs67 · Post by **brianbbs67** » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:03 am

I stumbled across Romans 6:1-4 which indicates Paul's baptism.

Yahwehismywitness · Post by **Yahwehismywitness** » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:53 am

brianbbs67 wrote: I stumbled across Romans 6:1-4 which indicates Paul's baptism.

He is talking about being buried that means dirt not water so many of us is vague and one would have to assume that includes Paul but he did not leave murderers behind and Father does not speak to him directly sends two witnesses? If he did not speak to him as Luke reports how is anyone suppose to believe he ever spoke to him? Acts 21:4,10

Desecrating temple is talked about a lot in dead sea scrolls and there were 48 people from Ephesus that accused him of teaching against the law to James, Peter and John. James the brother of Jesus Robert Eiseman

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:28 pm

[Replying to post 162 by Yahwehismywitness]

brianbbs67 wrote:

I stumbled across Romans 6:1-4 which indicates Paul's baptism.

He is talking about being buried that means dirt not water so many of us is vague and one would have to assume that includes Paul

Not at all.

He is not vague, but quite specific.

Romans 6:

3 Or donâ€™t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death.

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:46 pm

[Replying to post 162 by Yahwehismywitness]

Robert Eiseman

Who is Robert Eiserman?

brianbbs67 · Post by **brianbbs67** » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:08 pm

ESV and NASB both have all in place KJ many.

Strong's and Greek back up all and Koine is First person plural possessive. Meaning Paul includes himself.

https://biblehub.com/parallel/romans/6-3.htm

Yahwehismywitness · Post by **Yahwehismywitness** » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:00 pm

Paul was not baptized he is a pharisee and a herodian in his own words.

If he got baptized explain why my Father in heaven did not talk to Paul ? Acts 21: 4, 10.

Paul Eiseman is an author look him up actually much more than a author.

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:07 am

[Replying to post 165 by brianbbs67]

Paul Eiseman is an author look him up actually much more than a author.

Fine.

Why then did you mention his name?

What has he got to do with this thread?

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:41 am

[Replying to post 166 by Yahwehismywitness]

Paul was not baptized he is a pharisee and a herodian in his own words.

If he got baptized explain why my Father in heaven did not talk to Paul ? Acts 21: 4, 10.

Paul was baptized(Acts 9:17-18), having changed his allegiance and been filled with the Holy Spirit.

Your Father in heaven chose others to talk to Paul in Acts 21.

Yahwehismywitness · Post by **Yahwehismywitness** » Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:26 am

Paul was baptized(Acts 9:17-18), having changed his allegiance and been filled with the Holy Spirit.

Your Father in heaven chose others to talk to Paul in Acts 21.

By a sinful man? Signs and wonders like the Egyptians. It is an abomination for any man to think he is a God. You can not lay hands on someone and give them only Spirit that is a lie. There is only one that gives the Holy Spirit and that is my Father in Heaven.

My father chose not to talk to him because he never repented. In Romans he said he was a herodian, In Acts he says he is a Pharisee, he says he is a Roman. He links to the murderers in his own words after his supposed conversion. Jesus spoke against them. Mark 8:15

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:05 am

Yahwehismywitness wrote:
Paul was baptized(Acts 9:17-18), having changed his allegiance and been filled with the Holy Spirit.

Your Father in heaven chose others to talk to Paul in Acts 21.
By a sinful man? Signs and wonders like the Egyptians. It is an abomination for any man to think he is a God. You can not lay hands on someone and give them only Spirit that is a lie. There is only one that gives the Holy Spirit and that is my Father in Heaven.

My father chose not to talk to him because he never repented. In Romans he said he was a herodian, In Acts he says he is a Pharisee, he says he is a Roman. He links to the murderers in his own words after his supposed conversion. Jesus spoke against them. Mark 8:15

Pretty much what you have already written, much more than just one time.

Luke is ignored or down-graded, and Paul's own words are misapplied against him or disbelieved.

For goodness sake, this is 2000 years later - just give it a rest, please.