Where is water baptism of Paul?

[Yahwehismywitness]

Jesus says follow him at least 20 times in the gospels.
Jesus was water baptized Matthew 3:14:17
Must do for Holy Spirit promise

Was name change a substitute?

[brianbbs67]

Galatians 2:9 Paul blandly remarks that "those reputed to be Pillars or reckoned important had nothing to add to the version of the gospel that he proclaimed among the Gentiles.

Galatians 1:12
For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

All of the ones Paul speaks of Jesus, James, John and Peter spent 3 years together with Jesus and followed his words but none of these men imparted anything. In the Apostolic Epistles we find nothing of the sort.

Contrariwise, in I Cor. vii:40 Paul speaks according to his own opinion and in many passages we come across doubtful and perplexed phrase; such as, "We think, therefore," Rom. iii:28; "Now I think," Rom. viii:18, and so on. (6) Besides these, other expressions are met with very different from those used by the prophets. (7) For instance, 1 Cor. vii:6, "But I speak this by permission, not by commandment;" "I give my judgment as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful" (1 Cor. vii:25)

Hence Spinoza concluded Paul was conceding he was not inspired generally, if ever, in anything he wrote. See Spinoza, A Theologico-Political Treatise (1883) chapter 11
https://www.sacred-texts.com/phi/spinoz ... /tpt17.htm

Paul amazingly in Galatians 2:2 says revelations sent him to Jerusalem, but Paul then admits he went because he was unsure he was running in the correct direction If you or I were sure we were having revelations from God, why would we be unsure and need other men to confirm what we teach?

Paul can seem to be confusing. And if he is to you or anyone, remove him from your theology. Let scripture confirm or deny him. If the message aligns without Paul, then Paul is ok. As to your last paragraph, I agree, if YHVH speaks to you there would be no doubt or confusion.

[Yahwehismywitness]

Paul can seem to be confusing. And if he is to you or anyone, remove him from your theology. Let scripture confirm or deny him. If the message aligns without Paul, then Paul is ok. As to your last paragraph, I agree, if YHVH speaks to you there would be no doubt or confusion.

Herodion or littlest Herod Romans 16:11. In the same breath, he sends regards to those he refers to as of Aristobulus, that is either relatives of or from the household of Aristobulus. Agrippa I's brother and successor, Herod of Chalcis (44-49) it will be recalled - also originally married to Agrippa 1's daughter Bernice - had a son by the name Aristobulus who was married to Salome connected in the gospels to the death of John the Baptist. James brother of Jesus page 538-539

And he cautioned them, saying, “Watch out; beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod.� Mark 8:15
Arrested Peter Acts 12:1-25
Tried to kill baby Jesus Matthew 2:16
Herod was there after Jesus arrest Luke 23 4:12

Paul stayed connected to the murderers, called the violent ones in dead sea scrolls Acts 9:14, Acts 23:6 other examples.

It is not confusion see who he truly is and where his loyalty rested with the pharisees and murderers. definitely not with Jesus or Yahweh

[Yahwehismywitness]

Paul stayed connected to the murderers, called the violent ones in dead sea scrolls Acts 9:14, Acts 23:6 other examples.

Remember not the former things, nor consider the things of old. Behold, I am doing a new thing; now it springs forth, do you not perceive it? I will make a way in the wilderness and rivers in the desert. Isaiah 43:18-19

Beloved, I urge you as sojourners and exiles to abstain from the passions of the flesh, which wage war against your soul. 1 Peter 2:11

Thus says the Lord: “Stand by the roads, and look, and ask for the ancient paths, where the good way is; and walk in it, and find rest for your souls. But they said, ‘We will not walk in it.’ Jeremiah 6:16

He Herod was evil by nature, cruel in punishment, and merciless to those he hated, and everyone admitted that he was more friendly to the Greeks than to Jews. For instance he adorned foreign cities of foreigners with large gifts of money, building baths and theaters, erecting temples in some and porticoes in others, whereas there was not a single city of the Jews on which he designed to bestow even minor restoration or any gift worth mentioning. Herod was a foreigner his father seems to be of Greece-Idumacean today would be called a Arab he was hated by the people. James the brother of Jesus page 628-629

[Yahwehismywitness]

Domitian (81-96)
Trajan (98-117)
Vespasian ( 69–79)

All have something in common with Herod:

Gave orders to search be made for all of descendants of David and terminate, should be slain. Domitian despising them. Page 643-644 James the brother of Jesus Robert Eiseman

Who else does this sound like in recent times? Adolph Hitler
Antisemitism: an age-old phenomenon

Hitler did not invent the hatred of Jews. Jews in Europe had been victims of discrimination and persecution since the Middle Ages, often for religious reasons. Christians saw the Jewish faith as an aberration that had to be quashed. Jews were sometimes forced to convert or they were not allowed to practice certain professions.

In the nineteenth century, religion played a less important role. It was replaced by theories about the differences between races and peoples. The idea that Jews belonged to a different people than the Germans, for instance, caught on. Even Jews who had converted to Christianity were still 'different' because of their bloodline.

https://www.annefrank.org/en/anne-frank ... hate-jews/

[brianbbs67]

Back to the OP, where is the baptism of the Apostles? the 70? and the specific verse with names that show it? You will find a few.

[Yahwehismywitness]

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Jesus baptized his 12 Apostles John 4:2
Peter stood up in the midst of disciples and said the number of names together (120) they continued in one accord Acts 1:14-15

Jesus was baptized Matthew 3:17

There is no information but based on evidence he would not have sent them out without baptism. Many were baptized by John the baptist in preparation for Jesus.

[brianbbs67]

[Replying to post 155 by brianbbs67]

Jesus baptized his 12 Apostles John 4:2
Peter stood up in the midst of disciples and said the number of names together (120) they continued in one accord Acts 1:14-15

Jesus was baptized Matthew 3:17

There is no information but based on evidence he would not have sent them out without baptism. Many were baptized by John the baptist in preparation for Jesus.

As there is no evidence Paul was ever considered questionable by the Apostles. People accused him as they accused Christ. Paul claimed to teach only the law and prophets as The Way of Christ. The Way was the sect created by Yeshua. Paul is twisted by the mentally unstable and depraved as they twist all scripture. 2 Peter 3:14-18

[Yahwehismywitness]

As there is no evidence Paul was ever considered questionable by the Apostles. People accused him as they accused Christ. Paul claimed to teach only the law and prophets as The Way of Christ. The Way was the sect created by Yeshua. Paul is twisted by the mentally unstable and depraved as they twist all scripture. 2 Peter 3:14-18

There is plenty of information from Apostles lets begin with second Peter quote: Called him brother not Apostle, said wisdom not INSPIRATION, hard to understand is not a compliment.

Paul Admits Often That He Is Uninspired:I give my advice" (2 Cor. 8:8-10). That's not constant inspiration. Second, Paul quotes Scripture, and says the Lord gives that command, but "the rest is from me, not from the Lord" (1 Cor. 7:10-12). The latter is certainly not inspired. Next, Paul says in another epistle: "concerning virgins, I have no commandment from the Lord, but I give my own opinion" (1 Cor. 7:25). Again no constant inspiration there. Again, Paul says elsewhere "what I am going to say now is not prompted by the Lord but from a fit of folly" (2 Cor. 11:17). Same thing. Finally, in advising virgins not to marry, Paul adds "I think I have the spirit of God." (1 Cor. 7:40). Can a constantly inspired person only "think" he says something with God's spirit? Of course not.

For the true Jesus knows He could communicate via the Holy Spirit to the apostles by the same signs and wonders that won over Paul outside Damascus. But a false Jesus would tell Paul not to go meet the 12 for fear that Paul's "Jesus" would be exposed as false

Why they would have baptized him but no he did not want that because he was still connected to murderers and worked for them. Paul is brought to Jerusalem by Barnabas, and introduced to the twelve. But the 12 apostles still had the same disbelief and lack of trust in Paul: "And Saul, having come to Jerusalem, did try to join himself to the disciples, and they were all afraid of him, not believing that he is a disciple,. Why no baptism and connected to murderers.

[brianbbs67]

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Are we not all uninspired at some point? And would not the original 11, be able to find a thief?

[Yahwehismywitness]

[Replying to brianbbs67]

Has this house, which bears my Name, become a den of robbers to you? But I have been watching! declares the LORD.� The prophet Jeremiah was rebuking the temple leaders for their abuses. Even as they continued going through the motions of their religion, they were oppressing the needy and violently taking what was not theirs. Jeremiah 7:11

Jesus went into the temple and cleared it out of “all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves� (Matthew 21:12). Jesus then spoke to the startled crowds: “It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves� (verse 22, KJV). The same incident is recorded in Mark 11 and Luke 19. John 2

When the Priests and Romans are the ones doing the evil of stealing and
murdering seeing is not the problem