Which gospel writer attended the trial of Jesus?

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Which gospel writer attended the trial of Jesus?

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There is only one Gospel which reports the trial of Jesus. That is the Gospel of John written about 95 A.D. Which of Jesus' disciples was present at the trial of Jesus?

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polonius wrote: There is only one Gospel which reports the trial of Jesus. That is the Gospel of John written about 95 A.D. Which of Jesus' disciples was present at the trial of Jesus?
I imagine the story of the trial would have been reported very clearly from people who were there. Nicodemus would be a likely candidate.
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Checkpoint wrote:
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brunumb wrote: [Replying to post 2 by JehovahsWitness]
A gospel writer didn't have to attend, it could have been miraculously revealed by Almighty God to the writers under inspiration of the holy spirit.
Given the endless debates among both non-believers and believers on what is written in scripture, it is quite clear that the holy-ghost-writer was not particularly good at his job. It is very hard to accept that the hotch-potch which constitutes the Bible comes from the same source as the incredibly complex and finely tuned universe. A little application of that fine tuning would have made a world of difference to how the Bible is read and understood.
Agreed.
But, like with all things Christian, it's all in what you want to believe.

Like with all things in life, it's all in what you want to believe, and all in what you don't want to believe.
Pretty much true. No matter what the facts say (or don't say) we can make up any belief we want.
But I do tend to see it a little more with people of faith than without. I wonder why that is?

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A gospel writer didn't have to attend, it could have been miraculously revealed by Almighty God to the writers under inspiration of the holy spirit.
The 12 of Jesus did not get Holy Spirit until after resurrection. More likely women told the story, they were there

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Yahwehismywitness wrote:
A gospel writer didn't have to attend, it could have been miraculously revealed by Almighty God to the writers under inspiration of the holy spirit.
The 12 of Jesus did not get Holy Spirit until after resurrection. More likely women told the story, they were there

None of the gospels were written until after the writers received holy spirit (after resurrection) so like I said.... A gospel writer didn't have to attend, it could have been miraculously revealed by Almighty God to the writers under inspiration of the holy spirit.


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Yahwehismywitness wrote:
More likely women told the story, they were there
As I pointed out in post #4, the Bible provides no support for this claim. It describes women watching the crucifixion from a distance. The trial of Jesus occurred some time before his crucifixion.


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[Replying to post 21 by Yahwehismywitness]

Peter was as close to the trial as anyone could get. I'm sure he filled the others in on what happened. Matthew and John undoubtedly got the scoop from Peter.



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What trial is Polonius referring to? Everyone seems to be responding to the time directly after Christ's arrest, when He was brought before the high priest. Instead of the trial with Pilate (which happened later).


That being said, at the courtyard of the high priest, both Peter and 'another disciple who was known to the high priest' were present. This other disciple is the one who went and got Peter access to the high priest's courtyard.


Simon Peter and another disciple were following Jesus. Because this disciple was known to the high priest, he went with Jesus into the high priest’s courtyard, 16 but Peter had to wait outside at the door. The other disciple, who was known to the high priest, came back, spoke to the servant girl on duty there and brought Peter in. John 18:15, 16


If Polonius is referring to the trial with Pilate, I don't think the account indicates who might have been present (with Christ or at least near enough to overhear things); though anyone could have been present outside.




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JehovahsWitness wrote: [Replying to post 1 by polonius]

A gospel writer didn't have to attend, it could have been miraculously revealed by Almighty God to the writers under inspiration of the holy spirit.

" ...men spoke from God as they were borne along by holy spirit.�​—2 Peter 1:21.

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RESPONSE: The Apostle Peter didn't write Peter II.

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polonius wrote:
JehovahsWitness wrote: [Replying to post 1 by polonius]

A gospel writer didn't have to attend, it could have been miraculously revealed by Almighty God to the writers under inspiration of the holy spirit.

" ...men spoke from God as they were borne along by holy spirit.�​—2 Peter 1:21.

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RESPONSE: The Apostle Peter didn't write Peter II.

All my "visions" are "miraculously revealed" too! ;)

Wikipedia "The Second Epistle of Peter, often referred to as Second Peter and written 2 Peter or in Roman numerals II Peter (especially in older references), is a book of the New Testament of the Bible, traditionally held to have been written by Saint Peter. Most critical biblical scholars have concluded Peter is not the author, considering the epistle pseudepigraphical.
Human authorship is not the issue; divine authorship, the work of the Holy Spirit, is.

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Re: Which gospel writer attended the trial of Jesus?

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Checkpoint wrote:
polonius wrote:
JehovahsWitness wrote: [Replying to post 1 by polonius]

A gospel writer didn't have to attend, it could have been miraculously revealed by Almighty God to the writers under inspiration of the holy spirit.

" ...men spoke from God as they were borne along by holy spirit.�​—2 Peter 1:21.

JW

RESPONSE: The Apostle Peter didn't write Peter II.

All my "visions" are "miraculously revealed" too! ;)

Wikipedia "The Second Epistle of Peter, often referred to as Second Peter and written 2 Peter or in Roman numerals II Peter (especially in older references), is a book of the New Testament of the Bible, traditionally held to have been written by Saint Peter. Most critical biblical scholars have concluded Peter is not the author, considering the epistle pseudepigraphical.
Human authorship is not the issue; divine authorship, the work of the Holy Spirit, is.
Perhaps. Of course if the divine were involved, you'd think the Holy Spirit would get the author's name right.


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