Matthew reports that Jesus was born during the reign of King Herod who died in 4 B.C.
Luke reports that Jesus was born during the 6 AD census of Judea. There is at least a ten year difference.
Based on scripture then the logical conclusion is that Mary had two sons named Jesus born ten or more years apart.
Are these really claimed to be divinely inspired scripture?
Do major errors occur elsewhere in scripture. Did God make these errors?
Were Matthew and Luke both credible historians?
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Divine Insight posted:
(quote) Any Christian theists who claims that the Bible is NOT "God's Word" has already shot their own theology in the foot. If the Bible is not God's word then it's undependable and basically irrelevant as we would have no idea which parts of the Bible might be approved by God and which parts aren't. If we need to discern that through our own judgment, then we most certainly don't need any God to help us figure out what's right or wrong. (quote)
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"Test everything, and put away childish things" St. Paul
(quote) Any Christian theists who claims that the Bible is NOT "God's Word" has already shot their own theology in the foot. If the Bible is not God's word then it's undependable and basically irrelevant as we would have no idea which parts of the Bible might be approved by God and which parts aren't. If we need to discern that through our own judgment, then we most certainly don't need any God to help us figure out what's right or wrong. (quote)
RESPONSE: Now you understand!
"Test everything, and put away childish things" St. Paul
Shouldn't we become reality oriented?
Post #12polonius wrote: Divine Insight posted:
(quote) Any Christian theists who claims that the Bible is NOT "God's Word" has already shot their own theology in the foot. If the Bible is not God's word then it's undependable and basically irrelevant as we would have no idea which parts of the Bible might be approved by God and which parts aren't. If we need to discern that through our own judgment, then we most certainly don't need any God to help us figure out what's right or wrong. (quote)
RESPONSE: Now you understand!
"Test everything, and put away childish things" St. Paul
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Re: Shouldn't we become reality oriented?
Post #13I am a Christian theist and I understand enough to know how not to shoot myself in the foot.polonius wrote:polonius wrote: Divine Insight posted:
(quote) Any Christian theists who claims that the Bible is NOT "God's Word" has already shot their own theology in the foot. If the Bible is not God's word then it's undependable and basically irrelevant as we would have no idea which parts of the Bible might be approved by God and which parts aren't. If we need to discern that through our own judgment, then we most certainly don't need any God to help us figure out what's right or wrong. (quote)
RESPONSE: Now you understand!
"Test everything, and put away childish things" St. Paul
There is a huge difference between childish and childlike.
Re: Shouldn't we become reality oriented?
Post #14Checkpoint wrote:I am a Christian theist and I understand enough to know how not to shoot myself in the foot.polonius wrote:polonius wrote: Divine Insight posted:
(quote) Any Christian theists who claims that the Bible is NOT "God's Word" has already shot their own theology in the foot. If the Bible is not God's word then it's undependable and basically irrelevant as we would have no idea which parts of the Bible might be approved by God and which parts aren't. If we need to discern that through our own judgment, then we most certainly don't need any God to help us figure out what's right or wrong. (quote)
RESPONSE: Now you understand!
"Test everything, and put away childish things" St. Paul
There is a huge difference between childish and childlike.
RESPONSE:
Some religions prefer the childlike approach!
Matthew 18:3 New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
3 and said,
“Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."
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Question: If they were writing scripture, did they not have divine inspiration?Yehwahismywitness wrote: Jesus was not promoting himself I think is why we do not have those details never does it state to remember the date of his birth. Therefore it is doubrful Matthew and Luke actually knew the exact date
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Re: Shouldn't we become reality oriented?
Post #16Good post.polonius wrote:Checkpoint wrote:I am a Christian theist and I understand enough to know how not to shoot myself in the foot.polonius wrote:polonius wrote: Divine Insight posted:
(quote) Any Christian theists who claims that the Bible is NOT "God's Word" has already shot their own theology in the foot. If the Bible is not God's word then it's undependable and basically irrelevant as we would have no idea which parts of the Bible might be approved by God and which parts aren't. If we need to discern that through our own judgment, then we most certainly don't need any God to help us figure out what's right or wrong. (quote)
RESPONSE: Now you understand!
"Test everything, and put away childish things" St. Paul
There is a huge difference between childish and childlike.
RESPONSE:
Some religions prefer the childlike approach!
Matthew 18:3 New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
3 and said,
“Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."
Is it childish or is it childlike, to question or doubt the Bible and its authors?
Is it childlike or is it childish, to accept and believe the Bible and its authors?
