The UNITED NATIONS will turn against the world religions?

[JehovahsWitness]

• Do you think you will always remember that Jehovahs Witnesses are the only religion on earth that believes the "wild beast" of the book of Revelation is the United Nations ?

• Do you think you will remember that JWs alone believe the attack of Babylon the Great in the bible represents the total destruction of all religious organisations on earth and an attempt eventually to destroy that of Jehovah's Witnesses themselves ?

• What do you think your reaction would be if one day all religions institutons* were abolished?

*individuals remaining free to practice their religion in the privacy of their own homes

[onewithhim]

Peace to you!

Peace to you,

Sincere individuals (from any religion) will have the opportunity to survive armageddon if they make wise decisions while there is time (see Rev 18:4). Biblically though, only ONE religious organization will survive the destruction of Babylon (as only one religion is recognised by God ). So it will have to be the Amish OR Mennonites (not "the Amish AND the Mennonites"). That or it will be the only religion on earth that is actually announcing the event beforhand, the Jehovah's Witnesses.

As long as you're judging by the same standards when the dust has settled, and you won't say that those 324 Amish all still alive, living together with their rules intact, are just 324 individual Amish people who survived, but these 321 JWs who are still alive with their rules intact, living together, mean that the organisation has survived.

It's not me that does the judging, I'm just pointing out bible prophecy , namely that only one religious organisation will survive the destruction of Babylon the Great not two. I would be only too delighted if all the Amish and Mennonites survive Armageddon, and it certainly is not my place to judge them but as an organization with as you say "its own rules" (ie a religious structure and system that distinguishes them as separate and different from Catholics or Jehovah's Witnesses) then it will be either us or one of them not both.

Even though I must disagree that BTG represents all false religions, could you please present the scripture(s) that state one religious organization will survive the destruction of all false religions?

Peace again to you, and to you all.

The scriptures say that there is a religion with one line of thought, without divisions. "Now I exhort you , brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that you should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among you, but that you may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought." (I Corinthians 1:10) "That with one accord you may with one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ." (Romans 15:5)

I don't think these verses say what you are seeing. I can certainly see that Paul is exhorting some of His brothers to be united and not to have divisions among them (because they did have divisions, for example, some were saying they followed Apollos, and some were saying Cephas, etc.)

But I do not see Paul saying anything about a religion organization, or that one day, one such organization will survive the destruction of all false religion.

"Earnestly endeavoring to observe the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace. One body there is, and one spirit, even as you were called in the one hope to which you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism." (Ephesians 4: 3,4) This shows there is one religion that will always be acceptable to God. Just one. ("One body, one faith.")

One body, one faith, one hope... yes. But this is referring to people who have been called (to one hope), people who have one Lord, one faith, one baptism (Mark 1:8). Because Paul is correct - there is only one body, one spirit, one Lord.

The one body that is the body of Christ, the Church (the people who are in Christ, in His Body, having Him as their head.)


For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, His body, of which He is the Savior. Ephesians 5:23




This is not about a religious organization. It is about Christ and his Church (His wife.)




Peace again to you.

But it IS about one Church. The Church isn't a scattered body throughout the earth. It would not have independent members acting on their own.
How could that possibly be actually "united"? How could the preaching work be accomplished in an orderly manner, and something that Christ's disciples could be apprised of?

[tam]

Peace to you,

Peace to you!

Peace to you,

Sincere individuals (from any religion) will have the opportunity to survive armageddon if they make wise decisions while there is time (see Rev 18:4). Biblically though, only ONE religious organization will survive the destruction of Babylon (as only one religion is recognised by God ). So it will have to be the Amish OR Mennonites (not "the Amish AND the Mennonites"). That or it will be the only religion on earth that is actually announcing the event beforhand, the Jehovah's Witnesses.

As long as you're judging by the same standards when the dust has settled, and you won't say that those 324 Amish all still alive, living together with their rules intact, are just 324 individual Amish people who survived, but these 321 JWs who are still alive with their rules intact, living together, mean that the organisation has survived.

It's not me that does the judging, I'm just pointing out bible prophecy , namely that only one religious organisation will survive the destruction of Babylon the Great not two. I would be only too delighted if all the Amish and Mennonites survive Armageddon, and it certainly is not my place to judge them but as an organization with as you say "its own rules" (ie a religious structure and system that distinguishes them as separate and different from Catholics or Jehovah's Witnesses) then it will be either us or one of them not both.

Even though I must disagree that BTG represents all false religions, could you please present the scripture(s) that state one religious organization will survive the destruction of all false religions?

Peace again to you, and to you all.

The scriptures say that there is a religion with one line of thought, without divisions. "Now I exhort you , brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that you should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among you, but that you may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought." (I Corinthians 1:10) "That with one accord you may with one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ." (Romans 15:5)

I don't think these verses say what you are seeing. I can certainly see that Paul is exhorting some of His brothers to be united and not to have divisions among them (because they did have divisions, for example, some were saying they followed Apollos, and some were saying Cephas, etc.)

But I do not see Paul saying anything about a religion organization, or that one day, one such organization will survive the destruction of all false religion.

"Earnestly endeavoring to observe the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace. One body there is, and one spirit, even as you were called in the one hope to which you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism." (Ephesians 4: 3,4) This shows there is one religion that will always be acceptable to God. Just one. ("One body, one faith.")

One body, one faith, one hope... yes. But this is referring to people who have been called (to one hope), people who have one Lord, one faith, one baptism (Mark 1:8). Because Paul is correct - there is only one body, one spirit, one Lord.

The one body that is the body of Christ, the Church (the people who are in Christ, in His Body, having Him as their head.)


For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, His body, of which He is the Savior. Ephesians 5:23




This is not about a religious organization. It is about Christ and his Church (His wife.)




Peace again to you.

But it IS about one Church. The Church isn't a scattered body throughout the earth. It would not have independent members acting on their own.

Of course not; they are not independent of Christ. HE is their Head. He is the HEAD of the Church, that is His body. He, Himself.

How could that possibly be actually "united"?

By being in Christ, having one spirit (holy spirit), one Lord, one faith, one hope, one baptism.

How could the preaching work be accomplished in an orderly manner,

By listening to Christ.

(Phillip wasn't going door to door when He was directed by the Spirit to go and speak with the Ethiopian Eunuch.)

Nor do individual members have to be isolated from one another. I certainly never said that. But a religious organization is not required for people to be united in Christ, to be one in and with Him. Christ is required. Faith in Him.

Religious organizations get in the way of these things; it does become about listening to the edicts and beliefs of the religious organization.

and something that Christ's disciples could be apprised of?

I'm not sure what you mean here. Aren't the people bearing witness to Christ, disciples of Christ?

Peace again to you.

[onewithhim]

Peace to you,

Peace to you!

Peace to you,

Sincere individuals (from any religion) will have the opportunity to survive armageddon if they make wise decisions while there is time (see Rev 18:4). Biblically though, only ONE religious organization will survive the destruction of Babylon (as only one religion is recognised by God ). So it will have to be the Amish OR Mennonites (not "the Amish AND the Mennonites"). That or it will be the only religion on earth that is actually announcing the event beforhand, the Jehovah's Witnesses.

As long as you're judging by the same standards when the dust has settled, and you won't say that those 324 Amish all still alive, living together with their rules intact, are just 324 individual Amish people who survived, but these 321 JWs who are still alive with their rules intact, living together, mean that the organisation has survived.

It's not me that does the judging, I'm just pointing out bible prophecy , namely that only one religious organisation will survive the destruction of Babylon the Great not two. I would be only too delighted if all the Amish and Mennonites survive Armageddon, and it certainly is not my place to judge them but as an organization with as you say "its own rules" (ie a religious structure and system that distinguishes them as separate and different from Catholics or Jehovah's Witnesses) then it will be either us or one of them not both.

Even though I must disagree that BTG represents all false religions, could you please present the scripture(s) that state one religious organization will survive the destruction of all false religions?

Peace again to you, and to you all.

The scriptures say that there is a religion with one line of thought, without divisions. "Now I exhort you , brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that you should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among you, but that you may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought." (I Corinthians 1:10) "That with one accord you may with one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ." (Romans 15:5)

I don't think these verses say what you are seeing. I can certainly see that Paul is exhorting some of His brothers to be united and not to have divisions among them (because they did have divisions, for example, some were saying they followed Apollos, and some were saying Cephas, etc.)

But I do not see Paul saying anything about a religion organization, or that one day, one such organization will survive the destruction of all false religion.

"Earnestly endeavoring to observe the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace. One body there is, and one spirit, even as you were called in the one hope to which you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism." (Ephesians 4: 3,4) This shows there is one religion that will always be acceptable to God. Just one. ("One body, one faith.")

One body, one faith, one hope... yes. But this is referring to people who have been called (to one hope), people who have one Lord, one faith, one baptism (Mark 1:8). Because Paul is correct - there is only one body, one spirit, one Lord.

The one body that is the body of Christ, the Church (the people who are in Christ, in His Body, having Him as their head.)


For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, His body, of which He is the Savior. Ephesians 5:23




This is not about a religious organization. It is about Christ and his Church (His wife.)




Peace again to you.

But it IS about one Church. The Church isn't a scattered body throughout the earth. It would not have independent members acting on their own.

Of course not; they are not independent of Christ. HE is their Head. He is the HEAD of the Church, that is His body. He, Himself.

How could that possibly be actually "united"?

By being in Christ, having one spirit (holy spirit), one Lord, one faith, one hope, one baptism.

How could the preaching work be accomplished in an orderly manner,

By listening to Christ.

(Phillip wasn't going door to door when He was directed by the Spirit to go and speak with the Ethiopian Eunuch.)

Nor do individual members have to be isolated from one another. I certainly never said that. But a religious organization is not required for people to be united in Christ, to be one in and with Him. Christ is required. Faith in Him.

Religious organizations get in the way of these things; it does become about listening to the edicts and beliefs of the religious organization.

and something that Christ's disciples could be apprised of?

I'm not sure what you mean here. Aren't the people bearing witness to Christ, disciples of Christ?

Peace again to you.

Christ trained his disciples to go door-to-door. (Matthew 10:12-14; Acts 5:42)

And what of Paul travelling all over the place, building the congregations up, congregations that were made up of believers forming a group that worshipped together? They were not individuals that communicated with God. They were part of the organization that Christ was heading. And it had a central source of teaching the congregations what Jesus wanted them to know, in Jerusalem. When they had a question they asked the Apostles in Jerusalem for an answer, such as the problem about some Jewish Christians saying that every man should still be circumsized, and others that said no. It was decided by the brothers in Jerusalem. (Acts 15:1,2,6,13,19,20) All of chapter 15 shows how men were sent to certain congregations to help them, from the governing body in Jerusalem. The early Christians had an organization. Why not now? Especially since Jesus is the head of the organization.

[lifelongseeker]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #1]

You would do well to first discover who started the UN and what are the goals.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #1]

You would do well to first discover who started the UN and what are the goals.

1. You mistakenly seem to be assuming I have not done so.

2. Regardless of its origins and goals, above is our belief of applied prophecy.


JEHOVAHS WITNESS

[Perspectivo]

• Do you think you will always remember that Jehovahs Witnesses are the only religion on earth that believes the "wild beast" of the book of Revelation is the United Nations ?

• Do you think you will remember that JWs alone believe the attack of Babylon the Great in the bible represents the total destruction of all religious organisations on earth and an attempt eventually to destroy that of Jehovah's Witnesses themselves ?

• What do you think your reaction would be if one day all religions institutons* were abolished?

*individuals remaining free to practice their religion in the privacy of their own homes

If the United Nations abolished all religions, then Jehovah's Witnesses would be abolished as well.

[JehovahsWitness]

If the United Nations abolished all religions, then Jehovah's Witnesses would be abolished as well.

Propheticaly God will protect the one true religion. It will be a case of "last man standing" (Isaiah 54:17)

[onewithhim]

• Do you think you will always remember that Jehovahs Witnesses are the only religion on earth that believes the "wild beast" of the book of Revelation is the United Nations ?

• Do you think you will remember that JWs alone believe the attack of Babylon the Great in the bible represents the total destruction of all religious organisations on earth and an attempt eventually to destroy that of Jehovah's Witnesses themselves ?

• What do you think your reaction would be if one day all religions institutons* were abolished?

*individuals remaining free to practice their religion in the privacy of their own homes

If the United Nations abolished all religions, then Jehovah's Witnesses would be abolished as well.

That is correct. They will come after JWs as well.