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Post #91The worship used for the Father in John 4:24, is "prokusneo" in Greek, defined by EDNT as do homage.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:06 pmThe whole Bible attests to the fact that the Father and the Son receive different types of worship. Are you familiar with the entire Bible?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:10 amYou have your own interpretation, they were both mentioned in the quoted texts but nowhere in the there that implies that they were worship of different level or different kind of worship for the Father and another for the Son.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Apr 04, 2025 4:18 pmNo. You just interpret them wrong, according to your bias. They just show that the Father sits on the throne and the Lamb is there with Him, not saying that the Lamb is on the throne. He is not equal to Him who sits on the throne. The Lamb resides with the One who sits on the throne, but they still get different worshipping. The Father is worshipped as the only true God, and the Lamb is worshipped as an important, beloved, powerful, obedient Son of God, but not the same as God.Capbook wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 2:20 amSo, do you mean that verses below is wrong?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:36 pm
No. They show that it is the Father, Jehovah, alone that we must worship. Nowhere do the Scriptures say that the Father and the Son must be worshipped together as God.
Rev 5:13-14
13 And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying,
"To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever."
14 And the four living creatures kept saying, "Amen." And the elders fell down and worshiped.
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Would you confirm that it is correct? If not, can you provide another definition from Bible lexicons?
John 4:24
24 "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
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NT:4352 prokusneo
worship (vb.), do homage
(from Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament © 1990 by William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company. All rights reserved.)
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Post #92Looks like you are aligning yourself with my view on that. Yes, God is a Spirit and we must worship Him as our heavenly Father and God Almighty. It is also true that people in high places in government or in the courts or an army are given "homage," (respect due their position) yet not as God Almighty.Capbook wrote: ↑Sun Apr 06, 2025 12:59 amThe worship used for the Father in John 4:24, is "prokusneo" in Greek, defined by EDNT as do homage.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:06 pmThe whole Bible attests to the fact that the Father and the Son receive different types of worship. Are you familiar with the entire Bible?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:10 amYou have your own interpretation, they were both mentioned in the quoted texts but nowhere in the there that implies that they were worship of different level or different kind of worship for the Father and another for the Son.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Apr 04, 2025 4:18 pmNo. You just interpret them wrong, according to your bias. They just show that the Father sits on the throne and the Lamb is there with Him, not saying that the Lamb is on the throne. He is not equal to Him who sits on the throne. The Lamb resides with the One who sits on the throne, but they still get different worshipping. The Father is worshipped as the only true God, and the Lamb is worshipped as an important, beloved, powerful, obedient Son of God, but not the same as God.Capbook wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 2:20 am
So, do you mean that verses below is wrong?
Rev 5:13-14
13 And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying,
"To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever."
14 And the four living creatures kept saying, "Amen." And the elders fell down and worshiped.
NASB
Would you confirm that it is correct? If not, can you provide another definition from Bible lexicons?
John 4:24
24 "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
NASB
NT:4352 prokusneo
worship (vb.), do homage
(from Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament © 1990 by William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company. All rights reserved.)
HOMAGE: "acknowledgment of superiority; dutiful reverence."
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Post #93Do that kind of homage to the Father be done also to God Jesus? (John 1:18)(Heb 1:8)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Apr 12, 2025 10:55 pmLooks like you are aligning yourself with my view on that. Yes, God is a Spirit and we must worship Him as our heavenly Father and God Almighty. It is also true that people in high places in government or in the courts or an army are given "homage," (respect due their position) yet not as God Almighty.Capbook wrote: ↑Sun Apr 06, 2025 12:59 amThe worship used for the Father in John 4:24, is "prokusneo" in Greek, defined by EDNT as do homage.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:06 pmThe whole Bible attests to the fact that the Father and the Son receive different types of worship. Are you familiar with the entire Bible?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:10 amYou have your own interpretation, they were both mentioned in the quoted texts but nowhere in the there that implies that they were worship of different level or different kind of worship for the Father and another for the Son.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Apr 04, 2025 4:18 pm
No. You just interpret them wrong, according to your bias. They just show that the Father sits on the throne and the Lamb is there with Him, not saying that the Lamb is on the throne. He is not equal to Him who sits on the throne. The Lamb resides with the One who sits on the throne, but they still get different worshipping. The Father is worshipped as the only true God, and the Lamb is worshipped as an important, beloved, powerful, obedient Son of God, but not the same as God.
Would you confirm that it is correct? If not, can you provide another definition from Bible lexicons?
John 4:24
24 "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
NASB
NT:4352 prokusneo
worship (vb.), do homage
(from Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament © 1990 by William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company. All rights reserved.)
HOMAGE: "acknowledgment of superiority; dutiful reverence."
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Post #94John 1:18 refers to the SON, not "God." ("No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten Son who is in the bosom with the Father is the one that has explained him.") Hebrews 1:8 does not say, in the original Hebrew at Psalm 45:6,7, "your throne O God." Whoever wrote Heb.1:8 undoubtedly copied what the original Hebrew words are, and they are translated as "Your divine throne is forever and ever." (Tanakh) Another comment on those words is that they can be construed as "Your throne is of God." These are the translations that are most probable, not "your throne O God."Capbook wrote: ↑Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:20 amDo that kind of homage to the Father be done also to God Jesus? (John 1:18)(Heb 1:8)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Apr 12, 2025 10:55 pmLooks like you are aligning yourself with my view on that. Yes, God is a Spirit and we must worship Him as our heavenly Father and God Almighty. It is also true that people in high places in government or in the courts or an army are given "homage," (respect due their position) yet not as God Almighty.Capbook wrote: ↑Sun Apr 06, 2025 12:59 amThe worship used for the Father in John 4:24, is "prokusneo" in Greek, defined by EDNT as do homage.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:06 pmThe whole Bible attests to the fact that the Father and the Son receive different types of worship. Are you familiar with the entire Bible?
Would you confirm that it is correct? If not, can you provide another definition from Bible lexicons?
John 4:24
24 "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
NASB
NT:4352 prokusneo
worship (vb.), do homage
(from Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament © 1990 by William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company. All rights reserved.)
HOMAGE: "acknowledgment of superiority; dutiful reverence."
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Post #95I thought I've already had presented to you "The New Testament in Original Greek" by Westcott and Hort, if none please find below, and it is supported by papyri P66 and P75. Note: W&H is not a translation, it is original Greek of the New Testament.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:09 pmJohn 1:18 refers to the SON, not "God." ("No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten Son who is in the bosom with the Father is the one that has explained him.") Hebrews 1:8 does not say, in the original Hebrew at Psalm 45:6,7, "your throne O God." Whoever wrote Heb.1:8 undoubtedly copied what the original Hebrew words are, and they are translated as "Your divine throne is forever and ever." (Tanakh) Another comment on those words is that they can be construed as "Your throne is of God." These are the translations that are most probable, not "your throne O God."Capbook wrote: ↑Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:20 amDo that kind of homage to the Father be done also to God Jesus? (John 1:18)(Heb 1:8)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Apr 12, 2025 10:55 pmLooks like you are aligning yourself with my view on that. Yes, God is a Spirit and we must worship Him as our heavenly Father and God Almighty. It is also true that people in high places in government or in the courts or an army are given "homage," (respect due their position) yet not as God Almighty.Capbook wrote: ↑Sun Apr 06, 2025 12:59 amThe worship used for the Father in John 4:24, is "prokusneo" in Greek, defined by EDNT as do homage.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:06 pm
The whole Bible attests to the fact that the Father and the Son receive different types of worship. Are you familiar with the entire Bible?
Would you confirm that it is correct? If not, can you provide another definition from Bible lexicons?
John 4:24
24 "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
NASB
NT:4352 prokusneo
worship (vb.), do homage
(from Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament © 1990 by William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company. All rights reserved.)
HOMAGE: "acknowledgment of superiority; dutiful reverence."
(Greek NT Westcott and Hort+) θεον G2316 N-ASM ουδεις G3762 A-NSM-N εωρακεν G3708 V-RAI-3S-ATT πωποτε G4455 ADV μονογενης G3439 A-NSM θεος G2316 N-NSM ο G3588 T-NSM ων G1510 V-PAP-NSM εις G1519 PREP τον G3588 T-ASM κολπον G2859 N-ASM του G3588 T-GSM πατρος G3962 N-GSM εκεινος G1565 D-NSM εξηγησατο G1834 V-ADI-3S
And regarding Heb 1:8, mostly literal word for word Bible translations that aims to maintain the highest degree of accuracy to the original languages (Hebrew and Greek) rendered the text as "Your throne, O God". See below;
(NAS95+) Heb 1:8 But of the Son G5207 He says, " R1 YOUR THRONE G2362 , O GOD G2316 , IS FOREVER G165 AND EVER G165 , AND THE RIGHTEOUS G2118 SCEPTER G4464 IS THE SCEPTER G4464 OF N1 HIS KINGDOM G932 .
(ABP+)Heb 1:8 But to G4314 G1161 the G3588 son, saying G5207 G3588 Your throne, G2362 G1473 O G3588 God, G2316 into G1519 the G3588 eon G165 of the G3588 eon. G165 A rod G4464 of uprightness G2118 is the G3588 rod G4464 G3588 of your kingdom. G932 G1473
(NASB+)Heb 1:8 But regarding the Son G5207 He says, “ R1 YOUR THRONE G2362 , GOD G2316 , IS FOREVER G165 AND EVER G165 , AND THE SCEPTER G4464 OF RIGHTEOUSNESS G2118 IS THE SCEPTER G4464 OF N1 HIS KINGDOM G932 .
(LSB+)Heb 1:8 But of the Son G5207 He says, “ R1 YOUR THRONE G2362 , O GOD G2316 , IS FOREVER G165 AND EVER G165 , AND THE SCEPTER G4464 OF UPRIGHTNESS G2118 IS THE SCEPTER G4464 OF N1 YOUR KINGDOM G932 .
And regarding Psalms 45:6, same sources. Please see below;
(NAS95+)Psalms 45:6 R1 Your throne H3678 , O God H430 , is forever H5769 and ever H5703 ; A scepter H7626 of R2 uprightness H4334 is the scepter H7626 of Your kingdom H4438
(ABP+)Psalms 45:6 G3588 Your throne, G2362 G1473 O G3588 God, G2316 is unto G1519 the G3588 eon G165 of the G3588 eon. G165 A rod G4464 of straightness G2118 is the G3588 rod G4464 G3588 of your kingdom. G932 G1473
(NASB+)Psalms 45:6 R1 Your throne H3678 , God H430 , is forever H5769 and ever H5703 ; R2 The scepter H7626 of Your kingdom H4438 is a scepter H7626 of justice H4334 .
(LSB+)Psalms 45:6 R1 Your throne H3678 , O God H430 , is forever H5769 and ever H5703 ; A scepter H7626 of R2 uprightness H4334 is the scepter H7626 of Your kingdom H4438 .
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Post #96Please see post 95.Capbook wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:14 amI thought I've already had presented to you "The New Testament in Original Greek" by Westcott and Hort, if none please find below, and it is supported by papyri P66 and P75. Note: W&H is not a translation, it is original Greek of the New Testament.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:09 pmJohn 1:18 refers to the SON, not "God." ("No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten Son who is in the bosom with the Father is the one that has explained him.") Hebrews 1:8 does not say, in the original Hebrew at Psalm 45:6,7, "your throne O God." Whoever wrote Heb.1:8 undoubtedly copied what the original Hebrew words are, and they are translated as "Your divine throne is forever and ever." (Tanakh) Another comment on those words is that they can be construed as "Your throne is of God." These are the translations that are most probable, not "your throne O God."Capbook wrote: ↑Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:20 amDo that kind of homage to the Father be done also to God Jesus? (John 1:18)(Heb 1:8)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Apr 12, 2025 10:55 pmLooks like you are aligning yourself with my view on that. Yes, God is a Spirit and we must worship Him as our heavenly Father and God Almighty. It is also true that people in high places in government or in the courts or an army are given "homage," (respect due their position) yet not as God Almighty.Capbook wrote: ↑Sun Apr 06, 2025 12:59 am
The worship used for the Father in John 4:24, is "prokusneo" in Greek, defined by EDNT as do homage.
Would you confirm that it is correct? If not, can you provide another definition from Bible lexicons?
John 4:24
24 "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
NASB
NT:4352 prokusneo
worship (vb.), do homage
(from Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament © 1990 by William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company. All rights reserved.)
HOMAGE: "acknowledgment of superiority; dutiful reverence."
(Greek NT Westcott and Hort+) θεον G2316 N-ASM ουδεις G3762 A-NSM-N εωρακεν G3708 V-RAI-3S-ATT πωποτε G4455 ADV μονογενης G3439 A-NSM θεος G2316 N-NSM ο G3588 T-NSM ων G1510 V-PAP-NSM εις G1519 PREP τον G3588 T-ASM κολπον G2859 N-ASM του G3588 T-GSM πατρος G3962 N-GSM εκεινος G1565 D-NSM εξηγησατο G1834 V-ADI-3S
And regarding Heb 1:8, mostly literal word for word Bible translations that aims to maintain the highest degree of accuracy to the original languages (Hebrew and Greek) rendered the text as "Your throne, O God". See below;
(NAS95+) Heb 1:8 But of the Son G5207 He says, " R1 YOUR THRONE G2362 , O GOD G2316 , IS FOREVER G165 AND EVER G165 , AND THE RIGHTEOUS G2118 SCEPTER G4464 IS THE SCEPTER G4464 OF N1 HIS KINGDOM G932 .
(ABP+)Heb 1:8 But to G4314 G1161 the G3588 son, saying G5207 G3588 Your throne, G2362 G1473 O G3588 God, G2316 into G1519 the G3588 eon G165 of the G3588 eon. G165 A rod G4464 of uprightness G2118 is the G3588 rod G4464 G3588 of your kingdom. G932 G1473
(NASB+)Heb 1:8 But regarding the Son G5207 He says, “ R1 YOUR THRONE G2362 , GOD G2316 , IS FOREVER G165 AND EVER G165 , AND THE SCEPTER G4464 OF RIGHTEOUSNESS G2118 IS THE SCEPTER G4464 OF N1 HIS KINGDOM G932 .
(LSB+)Heb 1:8 But of the Son G5207 He says, “ R1 YOUR THRONE G2362 , O GOD G2316 , IS FOREVER G165 AND EVER G165 , AND THE SCEPTER G4464 OF UPRIGHTNESS G2118 IS THE SCEPTER G4464 OF N1 YOUR KINGDOM G932 .
And regarding Psalms 45:6, same sources. Please see below;
(NAS95+)Psalms 45:6 R1 Your throne H3678 , O God H430 , is forever H5769 and ever H5703 ; A scepter H7626 of R2 uprightness H4334 is the scepter H7626 of Your kingdom H4438
(ABP+)Psalms 45:6 G3588 Your throne, G2362 G1473 O G3588 God, G2316 is unto G1519 the G3588 eon G165 of the G3588 eon. G165 A rod G4464 of straightness G2118 is the G3588 rod G4464 G3588 of your kingdom. G932 G1473
(NASB+)Psalms 45:6 R1 Your throne H3678 , God H430 , is forever H5769 and ever H5703 ; R2 The scepter H7626 of Your kingdom H4438 is a scepter H7626 of justice H4334 .
(LSB+)Psalms 45:6 R1 Your throne H3678 , O God H430 , is forever H5769 and ever H5703 ; A scepter H7626 of R2 uprightness H4334 is the scepter H7626 of Your kingdom H4438 .
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Post #97Post 95 is my response to your source you said from Tanakh.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:58 pmPlease see post 95.Capbook wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:14 amI thought I've already had presented to you "The New Testament in Original Greek" by Westcott and Hort, if none please find below, and it is supported by papyri P66 and P75. Note: W&H is not a translation, it is original Greek of the New Testament.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:09 pmJohn 1:18 refers to the SON, not "God." ("No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten Son who is in the bosom with the Father is the one that has explained him.") Hebrews 1:8 does not say, in the original Hebrew at Psalm 45:6,7, "your throne O God." Whoever wrote Heb.1:8 undoubtedly copied what the original Hebrew words are, and they are translated as "Your divine throne is forever and ever." (Tanakh) Another comment on those words is that they can be construed as "Your throne is of God." These are the translations that are most probable, not "your throne O God."Capbook wrote: ↑Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:20 amDo that kind of homage to the Father be done also to God Jesus? (John 1:18)(Heb 1:8)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Apr 12, 2025 10:55 pm
Looks like you are aligning yourself with my view on that. Yes, God is a Spirit and we must worship Him as our heavenly Father and God Almighty. It is also true that people in high places in government or in the courts or an army are given "homage," (respect due their position) yet not as God Almighty.
HOMAGE: "acknowledgment of superiority; dutiful reverence."
(Greek NT Westcott and Hort+) θεον G2316 N-ASM ουδεις G3762 A-NSM-N εωρακεν G3708 V-RAI-3S-ATT πωποτε G4455 ADV μονογενης G3439 A-NSM θεος G2316 N-NSM ο G3588 T-NSM ων G1510 V-PAP-NSM εις G1519 PREP τον G3588 T-ASM κολπον G2859 N-ASM του G3588 T-GSM πατρος G3962 N-GSM εκεινος G1565 D-NSM εξηγησατο G1834 V-ADI-3S
And regarding Heb 1:8, mostly literal word for word Bible translations that aims to maintain the highest degree of accuracy to the original languages (Hebrew and Greek) rendered the text as "Your throne, O God". See below;
(NAS95+) Heb 1:8 But of the Son G5207 He says, " R1 YOUR THRONE G2362 , O GOD G2316 , IS FOREVER G165 AND EVER G165 , AND THE RIGHTEOUS G2118 SCEPTER G4464 IS THE SCEPTER G4464 OF N1 HIS KINGDOM G932 .
(ABP+)Heb 1:8 But to G4314 G1161 the G3588 son, saying G5207 G3588 Your throne, G2362 G1473 O G3588 God, G2316 into G1519 the G3588 eon G165 of the G3588 eon. G165 A rod G4464 of uprightness G2118 is the G3588 rod G4464 G3588 of your kingdom. G932 G1473
(NASB+)Heb 1:8 But regarding the Son G5207 He says, “ R1 YOUR THRONE G2362 , GOD G2316 , IS FOREVER G165 AND EVER G165 , AND THE SCEPTER G4464 OF RIGHTEOUSNESS G2118 IS THE SCEPTER G4464 OF N1 HIS KINGDOM G932 .
(LSB+)Heb 1:8 But of the Son G5207 He says, “ R1 YOUR THRONE G2362 , O GOD G2316 , IS FOREVER G165 AND EVER G165 , AND THE SCEPTER G4464 OF UPRIGHTNESS G2118 IS THE SCEPTER G4464 OF N1 YOUR KINGDOM G932 .
And regarding Psalms 45:6, same sources. Please see below;
(NAS95+)Psalms 45:6 R1 Your throne H3678 , O God H430 , is forever H5769 and ever H5703 ; A scepter H7626 of R2 uprightness H4334 is the scepter H7626 of Your kingdom H4438
(ABP+)Psalms 45:6 G3588 Your throne, G2362 G1473 O G3588 God, G2316 is unto G1519 the G3588 eon G165 of the G3588 eon. G165 A rod G4464 of straightness G2118 is the G3588 rod G4464 G3588 of your kingdom. G932 G1473
(NASB+)Psalms 45:6 R1 Your throne H3678 , God H430 , is forever H5769 and ever H5703 ; R2 The scepter H7626 of Your kingdom H4438 is a scepter H7626 of justice H4334 .
(LSB+)Psalms 45:6 R1 Your throne H3678 , O God H430 , is forever H5769 and ever H5703 ; A scepter H7626 of R2 uprightness H4334 is the scepter H7626 of Your kingdom H4438 .
Tanakh is written in Hebrew, not in English.
See the Tanakh written in Hebrew and compare the Strong Numbers with the KJV of Psa 45:6, it doesn't say what you've said.
Thanks be to God that had given me these resources that checked every attempt of misguidance.
Psa 45:7 כסאך H3678 אלהים H430 עולם H5769 ועד H5703 שׁבט H7626 מישׁר H4334 שׁבט H7626 מלכותך׃ H4438
Psa 45:6 Thy throne, H3678 O God, H430 is for ever H5769 and ever: H5703 the sceptre H7626 of thy kingdom H4438 is a right H4334 sceptre. H7626
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Post #98Of course the Strong numbers would correspond with the "throne O God" version because they are referring to the King James Version. There is no comment on any other Bible version. The only misguidance here is you and your resources. Strong isn't the only resource to believe. Have you compared resources? Of course Strong's work wouldn't correspond with what I said, because it is only commenting on the KJV.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 1:02 amPost 95 is my response to your source you said from Tanakh.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:58 pmPlease see post 95.Capbook wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:14 amI thought I've already had presented to you "The New Testament in Original Greek" by Westcott and Hort, if none please find below, and it is supported by papyri P66 and P75. Note: W&H is not a translation, it is original Greek of the New Testament.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:09 pmJohn 1:18 refers to the SON, not "God." ("No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten Son who is in the bosom with the Father is the one that has explained him.") Hebrews 1:8 does not say, in the original Hebrew at Psalm 45:6,7, "your throne O God." Whoever wrote Heb.1:8 undoubtedly copied what the original Hebrew words are, and they are translated as "Your divine throne is forever and ever." (Tanakh) Another comment on those words is that they can be construed as "Your throne is of God." These are the translations that are most probable, not "your throne O God."
(Greek NT Westcott and Hort+) θεον G2316 N-ASM ουδεις G3762 A-NSM-N εωρακεν G3708 V-RAI-3S-ATT πωποτε G4455 ADV μονογενης G3439 A-NSM θεος G2316 N-NSM ο G3588 T-NSM ων G1510 V-PAP-NSM εις G1519 PREP τον G3588 T-ASM κολπον G2859 N-ASM του G3588 T-GSM πατρος G3962 N-GSM εκεινος G1565 D-NSM εξηγησατο G1834 V-ADI-3S
And regarding Heb 1:8, mostly literal word for word Bible translations that aims to maintain the highest degree of accuracy to the original languages (Hebrew and Greek) rendered the text as "Your throne, O God". See below;
(NAS95+) Heb 1:8 But of the Son G5207 He says, " R1 YOUR THRONE G2362 , O GOD G2316 , IS FOREVER G165 AND EVER G165 , AND THE RIGHTEOUS G2118 SCEPTER G4464 IS THE SCEPTER G4464 OF N1 HIS KINGDOM G932 .
(ABP+)Heb 1:8 But to G4314 G1161 the G3588 son, saying G5207 G3588 Your throne, G2362 G1473 O G3588 God, G2316 into G1519 the G3588 eon G165 of the G3588 eon. G165 A rod G4464 of uprightness G2118 is the G3588 rod G4464 G3588 of your kingdom. G932 G1473
(NASB+)Heb 1:8 But regarding the Son G5207 He says, “ R1 YOUR THRONE G2362 , GOD G2316 , IS FOREVER G165 AND EVER G165 , AND THE SCEPTER G4464 OF RIGHTEOUSNESS G2118 IS THE SCEPTER G4464 OF N1 HIS KINGDOM G932 .
(LSB+)Heb 1:8 But of the Son G5207 He says, “ R1 YOUR THRONE G2362 , O GOD G2316 , IS FOREVER G165 AND EVER G165 , AND THE SCEPTER G4464 OF UPRIGHTNESS G2118 IS THE SCEPTER G4464 OF N1 YOUR KINGDOM G932 .
And regarding Psalms 45:6, same sources. Please see below;
(NAS95+)Psalms 45:6 R1 Your throne H3678 , O God H430 , is forever H5769 and ever H5703 ; A scepter H7626 of R2 uprightness H4334 is the scepter H7626 of Your kingdom H4438
(ABP+)Psalms 45:6 G3588 Your throne, G2362 G1473 O G3588 God, G2316 is unto G1519 the G3588 eon G165 of the G3588 eon. G165 A rod G4464 of straightness G2118 is the G3588 rod G4464 G3588 of your kingdom. G932 G1473
(NASB+)Psalms 45:6 R1 Your throne H3678 , God H430 , is forever H5769 and ever H5703 ; R2 The scepter H7626 of Your kingdom H4438 is a scepter H7626 of justice H4334 .
(LSB+)Psalms 45:6 R1 Your throne H3678 , O God H430 , is forever H5769 and ever H5703 ; A scepter H7626 of R2 uprightness H4334 is the scepter H7626 of Your kingdom H4438 .
Tanakh is written in Hebrew, not in English.
See the Tanakh written in Hebrew and compare the Strong Numbers with the KJV of Psa 45:6, it doesn't say what you've said.
Thanks be to God that had given me these resources that checked every attempt of misguidance.
Psa 45:7 כסאך H3678 אלהים H430 עולם H5769 ועד H5703 שׁבט H7626 מישׁר H4334 שׁבט H7626 מלכותך׃ H4438
Psa 45:6 Thy throne, H3678 O God, H430 is for ever H5769 and ever: H5703 the sceptre H7626 of thy kingdom H4438 is a right H4334 sceptre. H7626
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Re: Book Of Life ( Who Writes The Names)
Post #99Again you understand it wrong, the textual basis of KJV Old Testament relied heavily from the Hebrew Bible, God's people in the Old Testament, that is called the Tanakh.onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 6:08 pmOf course the Strong numbers would correspond with the "throne O God" version because they are referring to the King James Version. There is no comment on any other Bible version. The only misguidance here is you and your resources. Strong isn't the only resource to believe. Have you compared resources? Of course Strong's work wouldn't correspond with what I said, because it is only commenting on the KJV.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 1:02 amPost 95 is my response to your source you said from Tanakh.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:58 pmPlease see post 95.Capbook wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:14 amI thought I've already had presented to you "The New Testament in Original Greek" by Westcott and Hort, if none please find below, and it is supported by papyri P66 and P75. Note: W&H is not a translation, it is original Greek of the New Testament.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:09 pm
John 1:18 refers to the SON, not "God." ("No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten Son who is in the bosom with the Father is the one that has explained him.") Hebrews 1:8 does not say, in the original Hebrew at Psalm 45:6,7, "your throne O God." Whoever wrote Heb.1:8 undoubtedly copied what the original Hebrew words are, and they are translated as "Your divine throne is forever and ever." (Tanakh) Another comment on those words is that they can be construed as "Your throne is of God." These are the translations that are most probable, not "your throne O God."
(Greek NT Westcott and Hort+) θεον G2316 N-ASM ουδεις G3762 A-NSM-N εωρακεν G3708 V-RAI-3S-ATT πωποτε G4455 ADV μονογενης G3439 A-NSM θεος G2316 N-NSM ο G3588 T-NSM ων G1510 V-PAP-NSM εις G1519 PREP τον G3588 T-ASM κολπον G2859 N-ASM του G3588 T-GSM πατρος G3962 N-GSM εκεινος G1565 D-NSM εξηγησατο G1834 V-ADI-3S
And regarding Heb 1:8, mostly literal word for word Bible translations that aims to maintain the highest degree of accuracy to the original languages (Hebrew and Greek) rendered the text as "Your throne, O God". See below;
(NAS95+) Heb 1:8 But of the Son G5207 He says, " R1 YOUR THRONE G2362 , O GOD G2316 , IS FOREVER G165 AND EVER G165 , AND THE RIGHTEOUS G2118 SCEPTER G4464 IS THE SCEPTER G4464 OF N1 HIS KINGDOM G932 .
(ABP+)Heb 1:8 But to G4314 G1161 the G3588 son, saying G5207 G3588 Your throne, G2362 G1473 O G3588 God, G2316 into G1519 the G3588 eon G165 of the G3588 eon. G165 A rod G4464 of uprightness G2118 is the G3588 rod G4464 G3588 of your kingdom. G932 G1473
(NASB+)Heb 1:8 But regarding the Son G5207 He says, “ R1 YOUR THRONE G2362 , GOD G2316 , IS FOREVER G165 AND EVER G165 , AND THE SCEPTER G4464 OF RIGHTEOUSNESS G2118 IS THE SCEPTER G4464 OF N1 HIS KINGDOM G932 .
(LSB+)Heb 1:8 But of the Son G5207 He says, “ R1 YOUR THRONE G2362 , O GOD G2316 , IS FOREVER G165 AND EVER G165 , AND THE SCEPTER G4464 OF UPRIGHTNESS G2118 IS THE SCEPTER G4464 OF N1 YOUR KINGDOM G932 .
And regarding Psalms 45:6, same sources. Please see below;
(NAS95+)Psalms 45:6 R1 Your throne H3678 , O God H430 , is forever H5769 and ever H5703 ; A scepter H7626 of R2 uprightness H4334 is the scepter H7626 of Your kingdom H4438
(ABP+)Psalms 45:6 G3588 Your throne, G2362 G1473 O G3588 God, G2316 is unto G1519 the G3588 eon G165 of the G3588 eon. G165 A rod G4464 of straightness G2118 is the G3588 rod G4464 G3588 of your kingdom. G932 G1473
(NASB+)Psalms 45:6 R1 Your throne H3678 , God H430 , is forever H5769 and ever H5703 ; R2 The scepter H7626 of Your kingdom H4438 is a scepter H7626 of justice H4334 .
(LSB+)Psalms 45:6 R1 Your throne H3678 , O God H430 , is forever H5769 and ever H5703 ; A scepter H7626 of R2 uprightness H4334 is the scepter H7626 of Your kingdom H4438 .
Tanakh is written in Hebrew, not in English.
See the Tanakh written in Hebrew and compare the Strong Numbers with the KJV of Psa 45:6, it doesn't say what you've said.
Thanks be to God that had given me these resources that checked every attempt of misguidance.
Psa 45:7 כסאך H3678 אלהים H430 עולם H5769 ועד H5703 שׁבט H7626 מישׁר H4334 שׁבט H7626 מלכותך׃ H4438
Psa 45:6 Thy throne, H3678 O God, H430 is for ever H5769 and ever: H5703 the sceptre H7626 of thy kingdom H4438 is a right H4334 sceptre. H7626