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Jesus is God - is Jesus the bridegroom?

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Blog post by someone: https://alexiscarucci.com/2022/05/18/je ... ridegroom/

Some relevant NT passages snipped from the blog post
Jesus referred to Himself as the bridegroom when He talked about why His disciples didn’t fast (Mark 2:18 – 20). Likewise, John, the Baptist, presented himself as the bridegroom’s friend and declared that the bride belongs to the bridegroom (John 3:29). The bride of Christ or the church consists of the entire body of believers throughout the ages, all who have received salvation by grace through faith. The New Jerusalem is also referred to as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband and alludes to Christ as the bridegroom (Revelation 21:2, 9 – 10).
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https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV
For your Maker is your husband—
the Lord Almighty is his name—
the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
he is called the God of all the earth.
I think the union between man and God that was restablished in Jesus is quite clear. When we put our faith in Jesus we are accepting that what Jesus did has united God and man. It took God to unite what man tore apart.

So, Jesus is God or is Jesus some rando that calls himself the bridegroom?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:37 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:27 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:14 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:11 am..Wootah is correct and Jesus is God.

Wootah is incorrect and Jesus is not God.
Then can you cite a Bible verse that says "Jesus is not God"

JOHN 10:35
And verse 36.

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Wootah wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 9:24 am I've never seen JW so unwilling to explain. I think we have got him.
Not hardly. You are not seeing any JW here "unwilling to explain," either. We JWs have thoroughly explained everything we say. No one can reasonably say that we don't explain.

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[Replying to onewithhim in post #82]

OK go on explain your view clearly on this topic.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Wootah wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:09 pm [Replying to onewithhim in post #82]

OK go on explain your view clearly on this topic.
No, you are the one that brought up the idea that JWs don't explain anything, so YOU show examples of that, to prove your point.

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[Replying to onewithhim in post #84]

The topic is clear, the creator is the bridegroom.
For your Maker is your husband—
the Lord Almighty is his name—
the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
he is called the God of all the earth.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Wootah wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:01 pm [Replying to onewithhim in post #84]

The topic is clear, the creator is the bridegroom.
For your Maker is your husband—
the Lord Almighty is his name—
the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
he is called the God of all the earth.
Jehovah stopped being Israel's husband when they killed His Son. So the "bridegroom" doesn't apply to Him.

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onewithhim wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:09 pm
Wootah wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:01 pm [Replying to onewithhim in post #84]

The topic is clear, the creator is the bridegroom.
For your Maker is your husband—
the Lord Almighty is his name—
the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
he is called the God of all the earth.
Jehovah stopped being Israel's husband when they killed His Son. So the "bridegroom" doesn't apply to Him.
What Bible verse are you using? Where are you getting that idea from?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Wootah wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 2:59 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:09 pm
Wootah wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:01 pm [Replying to onewithhim in post #84]

The topic is clear, the creator is the bridegroom.
For your Maker is your husband—
the Lord Almighty is his name—
the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
he is called the God of all the earth.
Jehovah stopped being Israel's husband when they killed His Son. So the "bridegroom" doesn't apply to Him.
What Bible verse are you using? Where are you getting that idea from?
Matthew 21:43; 23:37,38; Acts 15:14; Deut. 30:19,20; Ezekiel 20:13-16

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:53 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:51 am Then can you cite a Bible verse that says "Jesus is not God"

JOHN 10:35, 36
We are not allowed to reply by Bible verse only without explanation.


Explanation : John 10:35, 36 proves that Jesus is not Almighty God.
The verses does not say that Jesus is not God.

John 10:35-36
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
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Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:40 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:53 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:51 am Then can you cite a Bible verse that says "Jesus is not God"

JOHN 10:35, 36
We are not allowed to reply by Bible verse only without explanation.


Explanation : John 10:35, 36 proves that Jesus is not Almighty God.
The verses does not say that Jesus is not God.

The verses has Jesus himself identify who he is, namely God's son. Obviously if he is God's son, he cannot be Almighty God.
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