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Questions about Jesus and JW’s

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1. Jehovah’s Witnesses say Jesus was “a god.” This is how the NWT reads (John 1:1).

Do JW’s believe Jesus was a true or false god?

2. JW’s say Jesus is a created being.

When was Jesus (capital or lower case g) created?

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Capbook wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:48 am The "whole" is to me 100%.
Since Jesus did not receive the right to be the Father of Jesus how could he have received 100%?
Since Jeuss did not recieve the right to give everything to Jesus how could he have received 100%?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:35 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:48 am The "whole" is to me 100%.
Since Jesus did not receive the right to be the Father of Jesus how could he have received 100%?
Since Jeuss did not recieve the right to give everything to Jesus how could he have received 100%?
Are those statements Biblical or you just made it up?
Any verse that proves Jesus contention or right to be the Father of Jesus?
Can you quote a verse also that Jesus did not received the right to have all what the Father has? Based on the verse quoted John 16:15?

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Capbook wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:32 am Are those statements Biblical or you just made it up?
They are as biblical as your mention of percentages.
Capbook wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:32 am Can you quote a verse also that Jesus did not received the right to have all what the Father has?
Can you quote a verse that says Jesus was given the right to be the Father of Jesus?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:39 pm
Capbook wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:32 am Are those statements Biblical or you just made it up?
They are as biblical as your mention of percentages.
Capbook wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:32 am Can you quote a verse also that Jesus did not received the right to have all what the Father has?
Can you quote a verse that says Jesus was given the right to be the Father of Jesus?
Now, my point is Biblical, can you post your verse also?

John 16:15
15 "All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said, that He takes of Mine, and will disclose it to you.

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Capbook wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:28 am

Now, my point is Biblical, can you post your verse also?

John 16:15
15 "All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said, that He takes of Mine, and will disclose it to you.
You haven't made a point you've just quoted a scripture ; what is your point?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:21 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:28 am

Now, my point is Biblical, can you post your verse also?

John 16:15
15 "All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said, that He takes of Mine, and will disclose it to you.
You haven't made a point you've just quoted a scripture ; what is your point?
The content of the text is the point, Jesus had all what the Father had.

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Capbook wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:35 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:21 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:28 am

Now, my point is Biblical, can you post your verse also?

John 16:15
15 "All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said, that He takes of Mine, and will disclose it to you.
You haven't made a point you've just quoted a scripture ; what is your point?
The content of the text is the point, Jesus had all what the Father had.

I agree, you just seem to misunderstand what the word "all" means.
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:41 am
Capbook wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:35 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:21 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:28 am

Now, my point is Biblical, can you post your verse also?

John 16:15
15 "All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said, that He takes of Mine, and will disclose it to you.
You haven't made a point you've just quoted a scripture ; what is your point?
The content of the text is the point, Jesus had all what the Father had.

I agree, you just seem to misunderstand what the word "all" means.
We can consult Bible lexicons, from Thayer, Mounce, and Louw and Nida Geek-English Lexicon of the New Testament as what these defined "all", in Greek "πᾶς pas" as the whole, all things, everything, entire, a totality of kinds or sorts - 'every kind of, all sorts of.'

I think nothing is left when it speaks of all.

G3956 (Thayer)
πᾶς pas
Thayer Definition:
1) individually
1a) each, every, any, all, the whole, everyone, all things, everything.

G3956 (Mounce)
πᾶς pas
1,243x: all; in the sg. the whole, entire,


NT:3956
pas: a totality of kinds or sorts - 'every kind of, all sorts of.'
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain. Copyright © 1988 United Bible Societies, New York. Used by permission.)

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Capbook wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:09 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:41 am
Capbook wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:35 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:21 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:28 am

Now, my point is Biblical, can you post your verse also?

John 16:15
15 "All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said, that He takes of Mine, and will disclose it to you.
You haven't made a point you've just quoted a scripture ; what is your point?
The content of the text is the point, Jesus had all what the Father had.

I agree, you just seem to misunderstand what the word "all" means.
We can consult Bible lexicons, from Thayer, Mounce, and Louw and Nida Geek-English Lexicon of the New Testament as what these defined "all", in Greek "πᾶς pas" as the whole, all things, everything, entire, a totality of kinds or sorts - 'every kind of, all sorts of.'

I think nothing is left when it speaks of all.

G3956 (Thayer)
πᾶς pas
Thayer Definition:
1) individually
1a) each, every, any, all, the whole, everyone, all things, everything.

G3956 (Mounce)
πᾶς pas
1,243x: all; in the sg. the whole, entire,


NT:3956
pas: a totality of kinds or sorts - 'every kind of, all sorts of.'
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain. Copyright © 1988 United Bible Societies, New York. Used by permission.)
You still haven't said what your point is.

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Capbook wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:09 am

G3956 (Thayer)
πᾶς pas
Thayer Definition:
1) individually
1a) each, every, any, all, the whole, everyone, all things, everything.

G3956 (Mounce)
πᾶς pas
1,243x: all; in the sg. the whole, entire,


NT:3956
pas: a totality of kinds or sorts - 'every kind of, all sorts of.'
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain. Copyright © 1988 United Bible Societies, New York. Used by permission.)
So? Onewithim is right, you copy paste from Lexicon but you still havent said what that means for our discusdion. What do you think that means ? (and don't bother with your percentages because there are no percentages in scripture).
Capbook wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:09 am I think nothing is left when it speaks of all.

Do you have a scripture which says Jehovah had "nothing left" after he gave Jesus "all" or did you just make that bit up?
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