Exodus 3:2, “The angel of the LORD appeared unto (Moses) in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.” And so, Israel a bush burned with fire, yet not consumed. The chosen people of God, remain the apple of his eye They have been expelled, exposed to misery, persecuted, imprisoned, tortured, and murdered from the time of their captivity in Egypt to this very day, yet Israel lives as a nation. Have you ever asked yourself why, why have the Jews been persecuted so horribly, yet preserved as a people and nation?
God's Plan:
The LORD planned to use a descendant of Noah, from the line of his firstborn son, Shem, to separate a people for himself and create a nation. And through all their corruption, and foolishness, the Jews remain the “apple of God’s eye.” Here is the LORD’s explicit declaration to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, his twelve sons, and all the generations to follow.
Genesis 12:2, “I (the LORD) will make of you a great nation, I will bless you, and make your name great,” The promise of a nation assumes the existence of a national homeland.
Genesis 17:19, “Sarah your wife shall bear you a son indeed, and you shall call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an EVERLASTING covenant, and with his seed (his descendants) after him.”
Now because they sinned against God, the ten Northern tribes were overrun by the Assyrians in 790 B.C. The Babylonians murdered tens of thousands of Jews, and in 586 B.C., Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the Temple and the city of Jerusalem. Around 465 B.C. the Jews escaped the ruin designed for them by Haman. They would suffer the onslaught of Ptolemy Lagus King of Egypt, the dispersion by Seleucus Nicator, the slaughter by Antiochus Epiphanes, the ravaging by Crassus the Roman General, and by Herod the Great.
After murdering the Lord Jesus, the scepter would temporally depart from Judah. But this was only the beginning of Israel’s calamities.
Deuteronomy 28:29, “And you (Israel) shall grope at noonday, as the blind grope in darkness, and you shall not prosper in your ways: and you shall be only oppressed and spoiled (be plundered continually) evermore, and no man shall save you.” See Mathew 24.
Matthew 27:25, As the Lord hung from the cross, the people cried out, “Let his blood be on us and our children.” The people put a curse on their own heads and the heads of their children. Thousands would be killed at Cesarea, Damascus, Bethshan, and Alexandria, by Vespasian, and by the Roman Legions led by Titus. In Jerusalem, over a million were killed, and at Masasada a thousand more died by their own hand. Then the Roman Catholics began their persecution of Jews, this followed by the Islamic hordes, the Ottoman, and most recently Adolph Hitler and his Nazi party who took the lives of 6 million. The LORD’s judgments upon the Jews have been terrible, extending to the people, their religion, and the land. Their ceremonies essential to their religion are no longer observed, except by the Orthodox Jews: also, no longer observed is their ritual law, for they remain without a Temple, altar, and sacrifice.
But the LORD has kept his promise, Ezekiel 37:24, “I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and you shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and all your idols, will I cleanse you.”
The time of cleansing had arrived: It began on May 14, 1948, when a generation of newborn babies came into the World. God’s promise, “This generation shall not pass away until all these things (Matthew wrote about) are fulfilled.” This generation is now 76 years of age. Israel is at war in the North, South and West. Antisemitism abounds throughout the world, and hatred against them is on the rise. There remains for them one friend, the community of Christians. We must continue to pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
The bush of Moses, surrounded with flames, forever burns, yet it will never be consumed.
Is God done with the Jews?
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Re: Is God done with the Jews?
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Post #62[Replying to Tcg in post #61]
God’s word portrays the Jews as devastated by war and found to be morally and spiritually corrupt. And only by the grace and mercy of God has Israel survived to this day to learn the lesson that the desolation they have suffered is a direct result of their moral failures.
Isaiah 1:9 “Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us (the Jews) a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.”
Amos 4:11 “I have overthrown some of you (the Jews), as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah, and you were as a firebrand plucked out of the burning: yet have you not returned unto me, said the LORD.”
Prepare to meet the LORD warns the LORD: He will not visit Israel and a large part of the gentile world with salvation but with inevitable and complete judgment.
God’s word portrays the Jews as devastated by war and found to be morally and spiritually corrupt. And only by the grace and mercy of God has Israel survived to this day to learn the lesson that the desolation they have suffered is a direct result of their moral failures.
Isaiah 1:9 “Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us (the Jews) a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.”
Amos 4:11 “I have overthrown some of you (the Jews), as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah, and you were as a firebrand plucked out of the burning: yet have you not returned unto me, said the LORD.”
Prepare to meet the LORD warns the LORD: He will not visit Israel and a large part of the gentile world with salvation but with inevitable and complete judgment.
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Post #63[Replying to onewithhim in post #3]
But let's not forget that GOD said He would gather a remnant of the Jews to complete the Twelve Tribes.
The Jews -Judah - were two of the original twelve but todays Jews are a pagan gang of impostors from the northeast who worship the dead, kill Christians, deny Jesus, etc.
Thisi s why in the last days they will forge an alliance with the muslims of Jerusalem as they are basically the same pagans doomed ot destruction.
But let's not forget that GOD said He would gather a remnant of the Jews to complete the Twelve Tribes.
The Jews -Judah - were two of the original twelve but todays Jews are a pagan gang of impostors from the northeast who worship the dead, kill Christians, deny Jesus, etc.
Thisi s why in the last days they will forge an alliance with the muslims of Jerusalem as they are basically the same pagans doomed ot destruction.
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Post #64EYR wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:20 pm [Replying to onewithhim in post #3]
But let's not forget that GOD said He would gather a remnant of the Jews to complete the Twelve Tribes.
The Jews -Judah - were two of the original twelve but todays Jews are a pagan gang of impostors from the northeast who worship the dead, kill Christians, deny Jesus, etc.
Where did you ever get that nonsense from? I don't know any Jews that kill Christians. Russians, Chinese, and Muslims kill Christians.
Thisi s why in the last days they will forge an alliance with the muslims of Jerusalem as they are basically the same pagans doomed ot destruction.
Where did you dig up that nonsense? You better find yourself a new teacher.
Do you know what it means when the LORD said he will save for himself a small remnant? Today, there are 16 million Jews worldwide, One percent remnant =160,000 Jews have come to Jesus Christ.
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Post #65[Replying to placebofactor in post #64]
The Jews have been temporally set aside: "Their house has been left unto them desolate." Today, they remain under God's curse for killing his Son, but the Lord is not finished with them. Their punishment has been great for the past 2000 years. I will begin to post a history of their punishment over the centuries.
The persecution of Jewish people has occurred on many occasions and at widely different geographical locations. Persecution has been a major part of Jewish history, and it has affected the history and social development of the countries and societies in which the persecution occurred. Europe and the Middle East have been chief areas of persecution throughout the ages, while South Asia usually provided a refuge, as in the case of the Baghdadi Jews.
Over the centuries, Christians, including members of the clergy, have held the Jewish people collectively responsible for killing Jesus, a practice originated by Melito of Sardis, as stated in the Boston College Guide to Passion Plays,
According to this interpretation, both the Jews present at Jesus Christ's death and the Jewish people collectively have committed the sin of “deicide,” or "god-killing.” The charge of “deicide” has led to hatred and violence against the Jewish community throughout the civilized world.
The Jews have been temporally set aside: "Their house has been left unto them desolate." Today, they remain under God's curse for killing his Son, but the Lord is not finished with them. Their punishment has been great for the past 2000 years. I will begin to post a history of their punishment over the centuries.
The persecution of Jewish people has occurred on many occasions and at widely different geographical locations. Persecution has been a major part of Jewish history, and it has affected the history and social development of the countries and societies in which the persecution occurred. Europe and the Middle East have been chief areas of persecution throughout the ages, while South Asia usually provided a refuge, as in the case of the Baghdadi Jews.
Over the centuries, Christians, including members of the clergy, have held the Jewish people collectively responsible for killing Jesus, a practice originated by Melito of Sardis, as stated in the Boston College Guide to Passion Plays,
According to this interpretation, both the Jews present at Jesus Christ's death and the Jewish people collectively have committed the sin of “deicide,” or "god-killing.” The charge of “deicide” has led to hatred and violence against the Jewish community throughout the civilized world.
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Post #66The Jews were the first people to be offered the position of ruling the earth with Jesus, when his kingdom was to be set up in the heavens. They, as a people, declined. Jesus went first to them, then later his disciples went to the nations because the Jews as a whole were totally against Jesus and his Kingdom. "Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name." (Acts 15:14, KJV) Who got the privilege to rule with Christ after the Jews evidenced that they weren't interested? The Gentiles. Many of these people accept the invitation to rule with Christ, and that is called the Christian congregation.placebofactor wrote: ↑Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:44 pm [Replying to placebofactor in post #64]
The Jews have been temporally set aside: "Their house has been left unto them desolate." Today, they remain under God's curse for killing his Son, but the Lord is not finished with them. Their punishment has been great for the past 2000 years. I will begin to post a history of their punishment over the centuries.
The persecution of Jewish people has occurred on many occasions and at widely different geographical locations. Persecution has been a major part of Jewish history, and it has affected the history and social development of the countries and societies in which the persecution occurred. Europe and the Middle East have been chief areas of persecution throughout the ages, while South Asia usually provided a refuge, as in the case of the Baghdadi Jews.
Over the centuries, Christians, including members of the clergy, have held the Jewish people collectively responsible for killing Jesus, a practice originated by Melito of Sardis, as stated in the Boston College Guide to Passion Plays,
According to this interpretation, both the Jews present at Jesus Christ's death and the Jewish people collectively have committed the sin of “deicide,” or "god-killing.” The charge of “deicide” has led to hatred and violence against the Jewish community throughout the civilized world.
Peter wrote to Christians in Asia: "But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: which in times past were not a people, but are now the people of God." IPeter 2:9,10, KJV) It's pretty clear that the Jewish religious leaders, who influenced all the people, missed out. God's people are now the Christian congregation, people taken out of all the nations.