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Saved by Grace through Faith

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WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?

You pick:

A.
Ephesians 2:8 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

B.
All that are saved, are saved by God through Jesus Christ.
This was established and confirmed before any of them were born in the flesh.
That would require nothing from the receiver other than going through
the process of being born on earth and all that curtails.



Yours truly,
the Lord's anointed
in the seven Spirits of God

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brianbbs67 wrote:
TLIG wrote: The least you say
the least you will contradict yourself
in a lie.
Replies like this and the earlier one are very juvenile and have no place in civil debate. Stick to the topic and stop goading and personal attacks. They are low fruit and easy to do with a keyboard.
The least you say
the least you will contradict yourself
in a lie.

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brianbbs67 wrote:
TLIG wrote:
brianbbs67 wrote: We are save by God's grace. Christ was the instrument, not the source of God's grace.
Jesus said that

A. grace would make you free.

B. truth will make you free.

Which is it?

John 8:31-32

The truth will make you free.
Free from what?

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TLIG wrote:
brianbbs67 wrote:
TLIG wrote: The least you say
the least you will contradict yourself
in a lie.
Replies like this and the earlier one are very juvenile and have no place in civil debate. Stick to the topic and stop goading and personal attacks. They are low fruit and easy to do with a keyboard.
The least you say
the least you will contradict yourself
in a lie.
The same could be said to you as the father of lies.

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TLIG wrote:
brianbbs67 wrote:
TLIG wrote:
brianbbs67 wrote: We are save by God's grace. Christ was the instrument, not the source of God's grace.
Jesus said that

A. grace would make you free.

B. truth will make you free.

Which is it?

John 8:31-32

The truth will make you free.
Free from what?

Can you not read?

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brianbbs67 wrote:
TLIG wrote:
brianbbs67 wrote:
TLIG wrote:
brianbbs67 wrote: We are save by God's grace. Christ was the instrument, not the source of God's grace.
Jesus said that

A. grace would make you free.

B. truth will make you free.

Which is it?

John 8:31-32

The truth will make you free.
Free from what?

Can you not read?
I read you loud and clear.

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Re: Saved by Grace through Faith

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TLIG wrote: WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?

You pick:

A.
Ephesians 2:8 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

B.
All that are saved, are saved by God through Jesus Christ.
This was established and confirmed before any of them were born in the flesh.
That would require nothing from the receiver other than going through
the process of being born on earth and all that curtails.

Yours truly,
the Lord's anointed
in the seven Spirits of God
All that are "saved" from "worshipping the beast or his image" is limited to those written in the book of life from the foundation of the world (Revelation 20:4 & Revelation 13:8). Of course there are those stricken from the "book of life" (Psalms 69:28), who will share the judgment of the wicked.

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[Replying to post 1 by TLIG]
WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?
Loaded question. Both are lies.

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brunumb wrote: [Replying to post 1 by TLIG]
WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?
Loaded question. Both are lies.
And just how do you know this to be the truth?

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showme wrote:
TLIG wrote: WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?

You pick:

A.
Ephesians 2:8 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

B.
All that are saved, are saved by God through Jesus Christ.
This was established and confirmed before any of them were born in the flesh.
That would require nothing from the receiver other than going through
the process of being born on earth and all that curtails.

Yours truly,
the Lord's anointed
in the seven Spirits of God
All that are "saved" from "worshipping the beast or his image" is limited to those written in the book of life from the foundation of the world (Revelation 20:4 & Revelation 13:8). Of course there are those stricken from the "book of life" (Psalms 69:28), who will share the judgment of the wicked.
I am not following your line of reasoning.
Would you please condense this down for me
so I can understand it?

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[Replying to post 28 by TLIG]
And just how do you know this to be the truth?
The source of all religious truth. Revelation from the OTG.

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