Does Hell Exist?

Exploring the details of Christianity

Moderator: Moderators

Post Reply
User avatar
Data
Sage
Posts: 518
Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:41 am
Has thanked: 77 times
Been thanked: 34 times

Does Hell Exist?

Post #1

Post by Data »

The question for debate is does hell exist? If so, what does the Bible teach hell is?
Last edited by Data on Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
1213
Savant
Posts: 12769
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:06 am
Location: Finland
Has thanked: 447 times
Been thanked: 468 times

Re: Does Hell Exist?

Post #191

Post by 1213 »

onewithhim wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 4:40 pm
1213 wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 11:47 pm
EBA wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 7:47 pm No hell is not real. It is a man made hoax.
And you know that because you died and didn't find it?

I could agree that it is man made, but not a hoax.
It is one of the biggest hoaxes of all time. If you agree that it is man-made why do you say it is not a hoax?
Why do you think it is a hoax?

What I meant with man-made, I think it is possible that people form it by themselves. It is eternal separation from God, and maybe it is just what the people make it to be. If all evil people are send to the same place and have freedom to do what ever they want without God, it would become torment. However, Bible tells soul and body are destroyed in hell, therefore I don't think anyone lives there eternally.
My new book can be read freely from here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rIkqxC ... xtqFY/view

Old version can be read from here:
http://web.archive.org/web/202212010403 ... x_eng.html

Capbook
Guru
Posts: 2120
Joined: Sat May 04, 2024 7:12 am
Has thanked: 43 times
Been thanked: 60 times

Re: Does Hell Exist?

Post #192

Post by Capbook »

JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:43 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:00 am
Yes, I mean the Gehenna is real, that will destroy death and hades.
Total destruction is real. The literal place was'just used by Jesus as a symbol of total destruction. Something can be real but not literal.
The title of the thread is, "Does Hell Exist"? Is you answer yes then?

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 22892
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 900 times
Been thanked: 1339 times
Contact:

Re: Does Hell Exist?

Post #193

Post by JehovahsWitness »

Capbook wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:44 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:43 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:00 am
Yes, I mean the Gehenna is real, that will destroy death and hades.
Total destruction is real. The literal place was'just used by Jesus as a symbol of total destruction. Something can be real but not literal.
The title of the thread is, "Does Hell Exist"? Is you answer yes then?
That depends in what you mean by hell. And what you mean by exist.
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

EBA
Apprentice
Posts: 246
Joined: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:34 pm
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 8 times

Re: Does Hell Exist?

Post #194

Post by EBA »

Hell is not synonymous with the lake of fire nor is it geenna or tartaroo or the pit. Hell is more so in line (albeit poorly) with the Greek word hades which is synonymous with the Hebrew word sheol.

It (sheol/hades) is the grave or more precisely the “state of death.”


- the soul that sinneth, it shall die. (Eze 18:4 and Eza 18:20)

When the soul dies it is in the grave “the state of death” and will remain in that miraculous state until the day of judgment.

And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves SHALL HEAR HIS VOICE,
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. (John 5:27-29)

Peace.

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 22892
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 900 times
Been thanked: 1339 times
Contact:

Re: Does Hell Exist?

Post #195

Post by JehovahsWitness »

EBA wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:57 pm
When the soul dies it is in the grave “the state of death” and will remain in that miraculous state until the day of judgment.
What do you mean by "miraculous state"?
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

EBA
Apprentice
Posts: 246
Joined: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:34 pm
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 8 times

Re: Does Hell Exist?

Post #196

Post by EBA »

JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:01 pm
EBA wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:57 pm
When the soul dies it is in the grave “the state of death” and will remain in that miraculous state until the day of judgment.
What do you mean by "miraculous state"?
Death is a miracle. A state that God causes, it doesn’t just happen because you are alive. And you are held in that state until the appointed time in which you are to come forth and be judged and be resurrected.

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 22892
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 900 times
Been thanked: 1339 times
Contact:

Re: Does Hell Exist?

Post #197

Post by JehovahsWitness »

EBA wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:36 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:01 pm
EBA wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:57 pm
When the soul dies it is in the grave “the state of death” and will remain in that miraculous state until the day of judgment.
What do you mean by "miraculous state"?
Death is a miracle. A state that God causes, it doesn’t just happen because you are alive. And you are held in that state until the appointed time in which you are to come forth and be judged and be resurrected.

Dis Jesus not say God is a God of the living, not of the dead? Is death not called "The last enemy"? How can death be refered to as a miracle from God. Je it not rather a course from our first parents? (Ses Romans 5:12)
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

Capbook
Guru
Posts: 2120
Joined: Sat May 04, 2024 7:12 am
Has thanked: 43 times
Been thanked: 60 times

Re: Does Hell Exist?

Post #198

Post by Capbook »

JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:24 am
Capbook wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:44 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:43 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:00 am
Yes, I mean the Gehenna is real, that will destroy death and hades.
Total destruction is real. The literal place was'just used by Jesus as a symbol of total destruction. Something can be real but not literal.
The title of the thread is, "Does Hell Exist"? Is you answer yes then?
That depends in what you mean by hell. And what you mean by exist.
Gehenna I mean. And do you believe it's real?

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 22892
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 900 times
Been thanked: 1339 times
Contact:

Re: Does Hell Exist?

Post #199

Post by JehovahsWitness »

Capbook wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:12 am
Gehenna I mean. And do you believe it's real?
That depends on what you mean by the word "real".
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

Capbook
Guru
Posts: 2120
Joined: Sat May 04, 2024 7:12 am
Has thanked: 43 times
Been thanked: 60 times

Re: Does Hell Exist?

Post #200

Post by Capbook »

JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 2:58 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:12 am
Gehenna I mean. And do you believe it's real?
That depends on what you mean by the word "real".
I mean real lake of fire that could burn things.

Post Reply