The Atonement

[Revelations won]

To all true Christians there is nothing more important to our salvation than "The Atonement of Jesus Christ".

Having said that, is it not therefore extremely important to every individual to understand fully what and how the atonement works for our benefit?

What does the atonement do or does not do?

What is required on our part to receive the full benefits of the atonement?

What and when and by whom did the atonement begin?

Can anyone clearly show all scriptures pertaining to the atonement?

I look forward to hearing your "take" on this most important topic.

Kind regards,
RW

[JehovahsWitness]

...by the Body of Christ they become dead to the law ! 47

What does that mean?

[Capbook]

To all,

In my OP I asked 5 simple questions. To make it easy for everyone I will ask those questions one at a time:

What does the atonement do or does not do?

I look forward to your responses.

Kind regards,
RW

What it can do? In the OT a sinner can make a sin offering to make atonement (to cover sin and reconcile with God) (Lev 1:4)

What it cannot do? The sin offering (blood of animals) cannot take away sins. Only by the sacrifice of Jesus we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. (Heb 10:4,10)

Lev 1:4
4 And he shall put his hand upon the head of the burnt offering; and it shall be accepted for him to make atonement for him.

Heb 10:4,10
4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Rom 5:11
11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

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Eternal Justification


That Christ's death alone hath eternally Justified them He died for is seen here Heb 9:12

12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

The word for redemption here lutrósis, means:

(in the Old Testament: ransoming from imprisonment for debt, or from slavery, release from national misfortune, etc.), liberation, deliverance, release.

redemption from the penalty of sin: which constitutes Justification, remission of sin, its a full absolution and acquittance from God, which Christ has obtained for them, if He indeed died for us, and its an Eternal One, an Eternal Redemption /Justification with Eternal effects, by which they shall always be free from any penalty of sin and death, even the second death.

This also applies to them in this blessed regard Heb 10:17

17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

They could never be of those who shall yet die in their sins in unbelief Jn 8:24, for that would mean God lied and did remember their sins again ! 47

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[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #1212]

See post 1210 where I discussed that

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He abolished death for them !


Its quite simple, all those Christ died for, by His death alone, He abolished death for them 2 Tim 1:10

10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

And the Gospel, as a Word of Salvation, is not for all, but strictly for them He abolished death for, which we know cant be for all without exception because we read of many that shall enter into the second death Rev 2:11;20:6,14;21:8 , so its obvious Christ did not die for such, because if He had, their would be no second death for them to go to , it would have been abolished,

But the Gospel is a Savor of Life unto Life 2 Cor 2:16, to them whom Christ has abolished death for, for it results in Life.

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Made Righteous by Christ's Law Keeping for Us !


All for whom Christ lived and died are reckoned by Divine Testimony to be Righteous based solely upon the Covenant Suretyship of Jesus Christ Isa 42:6

6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

During His Living upon the Earth, all that He did was not for Himself, but in stead and Name of His People Matt 1:21, those given to Him by the Father Jn 17:2

2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

Now He obeyed Gods Law Perfectly in their stead, as well as suffered condemnation in their stead, for their many transgressions against His Holiness and Law.

He for them obeyed the Law and fulfilled all Righteousness Isa 42:21

21 The Lord is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable. By His Perfect Obedience unto it for His People !

So because of His Federal Headship Law Obedience, the Righteousness of the Law [all that it demands of man] has been fulfilled in them Rom 8:4, and this explains why Rom 5:19b is True

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

That because or by the Surety Obedience of One, Jesus Christ in His Federal Headship Capacity [as was adam in the beginning of time] many are made righteous, which is apart from any Gospel Obedience of theirs like faith and repentance, and it was while they were even being enemies and disobedience Rom 5:10 ! 47

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He was made a curse for us !


Gal 3:13,14

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

The Us is everyone Christ died for, His Church Eph 5:25. Now being made a curse for them, He has for them drank damnation dry, so doing by providing a full satisfaction for all their sins, transgressions against the Holy Law of God, and with that all damnation and or condemnation has been removed from them, so much so, that its impossible that any one sinner that He died for, was made a curse for, can ever be of the damned, like these here who believe not Mk 16:16

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

2 Thess 2:12

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Even in unbelief those Christ died for, was made a curse for cannot be damned, because His death reconciled them to God while they are in unbelief and enemies Rom 5:10 !

Also none for whom He died, for whom He was made a curse can possibly be of that world which shall be condemned 1 Cor 11:32

32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

And since everyone Christ died for cannot be damned, cursed into the lake of fire Matt 25:41

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Then the reasonable conclusion is, all who are finally damned, cannot possibly be anyone for whom Christ died, and thats why they did not believe, Jn 10:26

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

They cannot believe because they are cursed and damned into perpetual unbelief, because Christ was never made a curse for them ! 48

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Things that accompany the death of Christ !


One of the reasons we know for a certainty that Christ's death was not for all mankind without exception, though it was for all men without distinction, as in different ethnic groups, is because of what His death alone accomplished and what accompanies it. Rom 8:32-34

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

The all for whom Christ was delivered up for, with Him being delivered up for them, comes all things.

Two of the all things freely given them is seen in Vs 33 #1 No charge can be laid against them as Gods Elect, thats consistent with non imputation 2 Cor 5:19, and secondly, what is freely given them is Gods Justification of them ! This is based solely on God not sparing His own Son, but delivered Him up for all of them, all the Elect of God ! 48

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Sin not being imputed !


A Glorious benefit and accomplishment of the atoning death of Christ, that religionist cant receive is this, those Christ died for sin cannot and will not be imputed to them, or charged to them, for they all are the blessed man here Rom 4:8

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

Sin is not imputed or charged to any sinner Christ died for, for His Blood alone cleanses them from all sin 1 Jn 1:7

7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Heb 1:3

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

The word purge here is from the word cleanseth in 1 Jn 1:7, they are talking about the very same thing as the result of Christ's death !

Now lets understand something, all of Gods Elect, those Christ died for, before and after conversion have sin in them eperimentally, and at times it reigns in them, in their flesh and members Rom 7, such sins as these listed but not limited to them Mark 7:20-23

20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.

21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:

23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.


But the good news for them Christ died for is this, even though these sins may harass them, even overcome them, bring them into captivity, give us great pleasure in the flesh, deprive them of sweet fellowship and communion with God, nevertheless God does not charge them to their account, and God sees them still as perfectly righteous, holy and unblameable in His sight, thats the hope of the Gospel Col 1:21-23

21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

And True God given Faith rests in and believes this Blessed Truth !
For the Just shall live by Faith ! 48

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Sin not being imputed !2


All for whom Christ died, every single sinner He died for, their sins were imputed/charged to Him, thats how He died for their sins 1 Cor 15:3

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1 Pet 2:24

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Now these scriptures could not be True if their sins had not been imputed to Christ.

Now everyone whose sins that were imputed to Christ for Him to die for, automatically become those Blessed Ones whom God will not impute sin unto Rom 4:8

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

In fact its a World of People 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Not one individual of this world can ever have sin charged or imputed to them, not by God !

What this means, no sinner Christ died for can have sin imputed to him or her by the Law, for sin is the Transgression of the Law 1 Jn 3:4

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

This scripture cannot apply to any sinner Christ died for, because sin to them cannot be imputed Rom 5:13

For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

You see that ? Thats a Divine Principle that cannot be denied or frustrated, all sinners Christ died for are dead to the law, it cannot charge them with sin or transgression before the Justice of God Rom 7:4

Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ[His death for you]; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

See, they become dead to the Law, before Faith/Believing, which is what marries them to Christ experimentally, because they have already been made dead to the Law by His death, and so sin cannot be imputed where there is no Law, and every sinner that has no sin imputed to them for violation of Gods Law, is Righteous before God Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Because His Obedience entailed having their sins imputed to Him for Him to die for them ! 48