Sola Scriptura? Then why do Protestants accept the Trinity?

[Elijah John]

One of the hallmarks of Protestantism is their adherence to the principle of "Sola Scriptura" or the Bible alone.

But the Bible does not spell out the doctrine of the Trinity. At best, it is only implied in the New Testament. So why do Protestants accept the Trinity when that doctrine is not in the Bible? Isn't the Trinity a Catholic doctrine?

[Wootah]

[Replying to Elijah John]

I mean a verse where YHWH is doing a godly thing. Not a verse that just says he is God. I mean anyone can say they are God.

Gen. 1:4, 7, 9.

If you are going to reject the many places where the Bible declares Jehovah (YHWH) to be God, why would we expect you to believe the Bible when it shows Him doing 'godly things'?

Tigger2 - I don't reject any part of the Bible. YHWH is God.



Y - the hand
H - reveals
W - the nail
H - reveals

I connect it together. Let the Bible speak for itself.

For by Him [Jesus] all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him (Colossians 1:16).

You are quoting Jesus in Genesis. Next example?

[brianbbs67]

Its not in there EJ. I wish it was, it may be true, but its only hinted at. That should raise a flag. Should we follow things that are or are hinted?

[Wootah]

Its not in there EJ. I wish it was, it may be true, but its only hinted at. That should raise a flag. Should we follow things that are or are hinted?

Why yes. In genesis the Messiah is hinted at.

So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,

“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[a] and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.�

Good thing that verse 15 was followed up on even if only hinted at.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to Elijah John]

I meana verse where YHWH is doing a godly thing . Not a verse that just says he is God. I mean anyone can say they are God.

YHWH is doing a godly thing? What kind of "thing" did you have in mind? A "thing" like dividing the Red Sea (Ex 10:13)? ...shaking a mountain (Ex 19:11) ? A thing like sending fire from heaven (1 Kings 17:22) ?.... creating the first human (Gen 2:19) ? creating THE UNIVERSE and everything in it (Gen 2:4)?....Or something more impressively godlike?

HEBREWS 3:4

Of course, every house is constructed by someone, but the one who constructed all things is God.

PSALMS 36:6-9

..O Jehovah. How precious your loyal love is, O God!
...ith you is the source of life; By your light we can see light.

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JW




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[Elijah John]

[Replying to Elijah John]

I mean a verse where YHWH is doing a godly thing. Not a verse that just says he is God. I mean anyone can say they are God.

YHWH is doing a godly thing? What kind of "thing" did you have in mind? A thing like dividing the Red Sea (Ex 10:13)? ...shaking a mountain (Ex 19:11) ? sending fire from heaven (1 Kings 17:22) .... creating the first human (Gen 2:19) , creating THE UNIVERSE and everything in it (Gen 2:4)?....

Or something more impressively godlike?

HEBREWS 3:4

Of course, every house is constructed by someone, but the one who constructed all things is God.

PSALMS 36:6-9

..O Jehovah. How precious your loyal love is, O God!
...ith you is the source of life; By your light we can see light.

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(Correct me if I'm wrong Wootah) JW, I don't think Wootah is saying that YHVH is not God. He acknowledges that he is because he indeed does Godly things. I think W is saying that so does Jesus. Jesus does Godly things so that makes Jesus God.

But that side steps the issue that the Bible explicitly says that YHVH is God. Verbatim, "YHVH, he is God". But the Bible does not say in a similar, verbatim manner that Jesus is God.

Jesus does Godly things because he is empowered by God, and given Godly authority.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 15 by Elijah John]

Okay fair enough. I misunderstood and took it to be a request for verses as to YHWH actually doing anything that merited the title.


My bad,


JW

[Wootah]

[Replying to Elijah John]

Yes, we are proving the Trinity again.

Why do you assume Jesus is empowered by God and YHWH is not empowered by God? Instead of making that assumption which involves an infinite regress just assume if X can do something that only God can do then X is God.

How about we apply the adage: If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck it's a duck.

You are giving undue weight to the Old Testament. I call the whole thing the Bible and read it equally.

YHWH creates = YHWH is God.
Jesus creates = Jesus is God.

Further, the Holy Spirit hovered over the waters and can create.

Spirit creates = Spirit is God.

More on the Spirit:
https://answersingenesis.org/answers/bi ... -creation/
https://www.ligonier.org/blog/five-trut ... ly-spirit/

[brianbbs67]

[Replying to Elijah John]

Yes, we are proving the Trinity again.

Why do you assume Jesus is empowered by God and YHWH is not empowered by God? Instead of making that assumption which involves an infinite regress just assume if X can do something that only God can do then X is God.

How about we apply the adage: If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck it's a duck.

You are giving undue weight to the Old Testament. I call the whole thing the Bible and read it equally.

YHWH creates = YHWH is God.
Jesus creates = Jesus is God.

Further, the Holy Spirit hovered over the waters and can create.

Spirit creates = Spirit is God.

More on the Spirit:
https://answersingenesis.org/answers/bi ... -creation/
https://www.ligonier.org/blog/five-trut ... ly-spirit/

If you are saying God is One, I agree. Monotheism can not accept more than one.

[polonius]

[Replying to Elijah John]

Yes, we are proving the Trinity again.

Why do you assume Jesus is empowered by God and YHWH is not empowered by God? Instead of making that assumption which involves an infinite regress just assume if X can do something that only God can do then X is God.

How about we apply the adage: If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck it's a duck.

You are giving undue weight to the Old Testament. I call the whole thing the Bible and read it equally.

YHWH creates = YHWH is God.
Jesus creates = Jesus is God.

Further, the Holy Spirit hovered over the waters and can create.

Spirit creates = Spirit is God.

More on the Spirit:
https://answersingenesis.org/answers/bi ... -creation/
https://www.ligonier.org/blog/five-trut ... ly-spirit/

If you are saying God is One, I agree. Monotheism can not accept more than one.

RESPONSE: But if you claim Jesus too was divine, you have two Gods.

[MarysSon]

Psalm 100.3 for one example.

Know that YHVH, he is God

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Where does the Bible say verbatim "know that Jesus, he is God"?

John 20:28
Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my GOD!�

Hebrews 1:8
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O GOD, is forever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Titus 2:13
waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great GOD and Savior Jesus Christ

Pretty clear to me . . .