Saved by Grace through Faith

TLIG · Post by **TLIG** » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:37 pm

WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?

You pick:

A.
Ephesians 2:8 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

B.
All that are saved, are saved by God through Jesus Christ.
This was established and confirmed before any of them were born in the flesh.
That would require nothing from the receiver other than going through
the process of being born on earth and all that curtails.

Yours truly,
the Lord's anointed
in the seven Spirits of God

brianbbs67 · Post by **brianbbs67** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:17 am

TLIG wrote:
brianbbs67 wrote: Well, you can't defeat anyone in a debate without compelling evidence. Stating something, is not evidence.

Making blanket statements that are unfounded, except in your mind, don't count either.
My opening statement to YOU in our debate:

WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?

You pick:

A.
Ephesians 2:8 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

B.
All that are saved, are saved by God through Jesus Christ.
This was established and confirmed before any of them were born in the flesh.
That would require nothing from the receiver other than going through
the process of being born on earth and all that curtails.

As others have pointed out, B is not backed by scripture. Although, many teach it. Incorrectly. Presbers come to mind. I and most believe the "book of life" is dynamic , not static.

TLIG · Post by **TLIG** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:57 am

brianbbs67 wrote:
TLIG wrote:
brianbbs67 wrote: Well, you can't defeat anyone in a debate without compelling evidence. Stating something, is not evidence.

Making blanket statements that are unfounded, except in your mind, don't count either.
My opening statement to YOU in our debate:

WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?

You pick:

A.
Ephesians 2:8 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

B.
All that are saved, are saved by God through Jesus Christ.
This was established and confirmed before any of them were born in the flesh.
That would require nothing from the receiver other than going through
the process of being born on earth and all that curtails.
As others have pointed out, B is not backed by scripture. Although, many teach it. Incorrectly. Presbers come to mind. I and most believe the "book of life" is dynamic , not static.

You are saved by God through Jesus Christ.

Yes or no?

Now if you answer anything other than

yes or no

YOU LOSE THE DEBATE right then and there
for you failed to answer the question.

To which is proof that you cannot rebuttal in truth.

TLIG · Post by **TLIG** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:24 am

You were easy to defeat.

brianbbs67 · Post by **brianbbs67** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:08 pm

We are save by God's grace. Christ was the instrument, not the source of God's grace.

TLIG · Post by **TLIG** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:13 pm

brianbbs67 wrote: We are save by God's grace. Christ was the instrument, not the source of God's grace.

When did God's grace save you seeing you are still here on earth yet to complete the race? Please explain.

TLIG · Post by **TLIG** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:16 pm

The least you say
the least you will contradict yourself
in a lie.

TLIG · Post by **TLIG** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:22 pm

brianbbs67 wrote: We are save by God's grace. Christ was the instrument, not the source of God's grace.

Jesus said that

A. grace would make you free.

B. truth will make you free.

Which is it?

TLIG · Post by **TLIG** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:23 pm

I am saved by the Spirit of truth.

brianbbs67 · Post by **brianbbs67** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:32 pm

TLIG wrote: The least you say
the least you will contradict yourself
in a lie.

Replies like this and the earlier one are very juvenile and have no place in civil debate. Stick to the topic and stop goading and personal attacks. They are low fruit and easy to do with a keyboard.

brianbbs67 · Post by **brianbbs67** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:38 pm

TLIG wrote:
brianbbs67 wrote: We are save by God's grace. Christ was the instrument, not the source of God's grace.
Jesus said that

A. grace would make you free.

B. truth will make you free.

Which is it?

John 8:31-32

The truth will make you free.