Does Belief Really Matter?

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Does Belief Really Matter?

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Ok. If someone believes in a Creator God, then they are in accordance with every (real) religion. (and by "real" I mean those that stand the test of time and cultural diffusion). Now after that all the religions believe in all the same morals. To say that they all contradict each other because of a few minor beliefs is rediculous. Just to elaborate....

Reincarnation for instance. This is irrelevant because either way the religions preach how you should live as the main tenent. And besides whatever happens when you die could be totally null and void for all we know.

To claim to know more than someone of another religion is a pointless argument. Just because someone believes something should not (and does not) stand in the way of their morality and character. if there is a just God then i don't think he'll be caught up on specific minor beliefs. He'll care about actions and how we live our life. Isn't that what matters in the long run anyway?

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If I understand your question correctly, you are asking why there is so much conflict between religions when they all pretty much have the same things to say regarding our behavior on this earthly plane. Is that right?

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The question should be:
Are they useful and how why, and to whom?
Some were and are not, some never where.

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Re: Does Belief Really Matter?

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Nirvana-Eld wrote:Ok. If someone believes in a Creator God, then they are in accordance with every (real) religion. (and by "real" I mean those that stand the test of time and cultural diffusion). Now after that all the religions believe in all the same morals. To say that they all contradict each other because of a few minor beliefs is rediculous. Just to elaborate....

Reincarnation for instance. This is irrelevant because either way the religions preach how you should live as the main tenent. And besides whatever happens when you die could be totally null and void for all we know.

To claim to know more than someone of another religion is a pointless argument. Just because someone believes something should not (and does not) stand in the way of their morality and character. if there is a just God then i don't think he'll be caught up on specific minor beliefs. He'll care about actions and how we live our life. Isn't that what matters in the long run anyway?
Peace and blessings,

I dont think God will hold a person responsable for any more that what they know. But my according to my religion I have a duty to speak the truth and share what I know to be true wether or not it is in conflict with other beliefs. On the other hand to argue when nothing is being acomplished is a waste of time and conterproductive.

I have a hard time talking to athests and rarely find any basis for discision on matters of religion. This can be a idodic adventure.

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Nirvana-Eld wrote:Ok. If someone believes in a Creator God, then they are in accordance with every (real) religion.
Not really. How many gods are there ? Are the gods all-powerful ? Do they thirst for the blood of unbelievers ? What do the gods command us to do ? All of the major religions that we have today (yes, including Christianity, Judaism and Islam) disagree on these important points, and on many others as well.

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In my religion this world is an illusion created out of belief. Belief is more real than the floor you walk on. As far as god torturing people for eternity for not accepting the same DOG-mas as some one else. That is the height of absurdity. God is the ultimate loving being. It's only the people that condemn others to hell that would actually condemn others to hell.
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In my religion this world is an illusion created out of belief. Belief is more real than the floor you walk on. As far as god torturing people for eternity for not accepting the same DOG-mas as some one else. That is the height of absurdity. God is the ultimate loving being. It's only the people that condemn others to hell that would actually condemn others to hell.
McCulloch wrote: I make no claims about God.
McCulloch wrote:We claim that god does not exist

People who keep changing their story are called liars.

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crystalmage wrote:Belief is more real than the floor you walk on.
How do I know that the floor that I walk on is real? I can see it, I can feel it, I can jump on it.

How do I know that a belief is real?

Do you really think that believing something will make it real?
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
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Do you really think that believing something will make it real?
Yes but only on the physical plain of existance.

I believe that the external world does not exist the way we think it does.

The rules of the external world are not what we think they are.

I believe that we create it out of belief.

I believe that a ball falls when we let go of it because that is what we believe it will do.

I believe that christ taught this same concept.

Every time christ healed someone he said your belief has healed you. NOT I have healed you. If belief creates reality and you believed that touching christ would heal you just like the falling ball touching christ should heal you.

Christ told his disiples that if they had belief the size of a small seed they could move mountains. belief creates reality.

I believe that christ knew this and that is the foundation of alot of the miracles he worked.

Buddha taught also taught that the world is a illusion. Buddha taught that only a fool thinks that the world exists out side of your mind.

Now even science is started to find that the smallest particles obey thought. That the thoughts of the scientist has an impact on the outcome of a scientific experiment.

Now if thought can impact things on the quantum level and the quantum level makes up all things above the quantum level. Does thought affect the formation of all things above the quantum level?
McCulloch wrote: I make no claims about God.
McCulloch wrote:We claim that god does not exist

People who keep changing their story are called liars.

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McCulloch wrote:Do you really think that believing something will make it real?
crystalmage wrote:Yes but only on the physical plain [plane] of existence.
So if you believe that the ocean is not salty, it would not be?
crystalmage wrote:Christ told his disiples that if they had belief the size of a small seed they could move mountains. belief creates reality.
Move any mountains lately?
crystalmage wrote:Now even science is started to find that the smallest particles obey thought. That the thoughts of the scientist has an impact on the outcome of a scientific experiment.
Citation please.
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John

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