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Post #1Although we have a very large problem with divorce in our countries, strictly speaking, would it actually be better for society if the option of divorce didn't exist at all?
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Post #11
I think you're missing something that is IMHO very important. To many people, marriage is no longer important. It should be more of and ordeal to marry, rather than more of one to get divorced. That way, any fragile relationships would probably break up before the commitment, children, et cetera.
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Well, that's also true that it's very easy to get married. It's the only license you can get without having to meet hardly any requirements. It was harder for me to get a gun license than to get a marriage license.Xlord wrote:It should be more of and ordeal to marry, rather than more of one to get divorced.

One thing I'd suggest is to use the spellcheck.P.S. I'm just warming up. I'm new to the neiborhood, so don't blame me if i seem like a bit of an idiot.

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Hmm... Spellcheck. An interesting innovation. Seems worth it too.
To stay on topic, just an interesting factiod. Did you know that 70% of all African-American children are born out of wedlock?
To stay on topic, just an interesting factiod. Did you know that 70% of all African-American children are born out of wedlock?
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Yes, interesting. But how does it relate to divorce?Xlord wrote: To stay on topic, just an interesting factiod. Did you know that 70% of all African-American children are born out of wedlock?
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Post #15
[/quote] Jesus said that the only cause for divorce would be fornication.
Matt 5:32 "But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery."
So, based on this, this would be the only acceptable criteria.[/quote]
Well that's terrific. Let's make it that Christians can't get divorced because their God told them that. Just leave the rest of alone and leave your religious beliefs out of our lives.
Cheers.
Matt 5:32 "But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery."
So, based on this, this would be the only acceptable criteria.[/quote]
Well that's terrific. Let's make it that Christians can't get divorced because their God told them that. Just leave the rest of alone and leave your religious beliefs out of our lives.
Cheers.
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That adds no value to the debate DNA. Nobody here is pushing you to accept the Christian belief system. We are here only to debate the different sides of issues and to present logic and supporting evidence to support one's position.DeoxyriboNucleicAcid wrote: Well that's terrific. Let's make it that Christians can't get divorced because their God told them that. Just leave the rest of alone and leave your religious beliefs out of our lives.
Cheers.
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Post #17
Now i don't believe that men and women should get divorced. The bible says that people,once they get married, should stay married. Now this is my personal belief. Now i understand that christians do get in trouble and choose the wrong person, then they will get a divorce. But i believe that the majority of married christians shouldn't get divorced.
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Post #18
I couldn't agree more with juber3. In reply to the first post by corvus, I think that if the option of divorce was taken away people would just go crazy and leave their spouses anyways. In Leviticus it says divorce is allowed if the husband or wife is unfaithful.
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Post #19Obviously my age will overshadow this post - maybe this is a new generation gap issue.Quarkhead wrote:It's easy to say divorce is too easy, but is that really the problem, or is that merely one of the effects of a more central cause?
It seems to me that the question might be "why are we becoming more selfish?" The problem is not that divorce is too easy or too hard - the problem is in our lack of willingness to accept a scope of existence or importance beyond ourselves.
Quite a few of us youngins see "til death do us part" a bit romanticised. People change. To expect that you will live your entire life happy with only one person is a bit naive. Divorces that are done in a mature and amicable way are not damaging or negative to anyone. Granted, not all marriages end this way, but the ones that do cannot be frowned upon. It's interesting that Quark brings up the notion of selfishness. For those of us who do not believe in afterlives and such - this life is all we have. There's no point in staying married to someone who has changed into someone that you no longer love. Life is too short. Selfish? Only if you're making unreasonable demands and strains in the family that you two share. I grew up in a divorced family - my immediate family is very large and very loving. I can't imagine not having my life touched by these step parents and their extended families. My parents were mature enough and amicable enough to part without causing damage to us children. Good for them - I'm glad they're both happy now. There was nothing that we would have gained by them staying together. My brother and I are better people because of their split - we have wonderful stepfamilies that we otherwise would not have ever known. I'm grateful for divorce in this society - it made my life more enriched.
Who knows if I'll ever marry, but commitment to someone for the rest of my life is a lofty goal. I'd only divorce a man based on my own standards of relationship integrity and personal happiness. Luckily I live in a country where it's my choice.
I'm curious to know what scope of existence or importance beyond ourselves is dependant on a monogamous adulthood?
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Sorry, I can't really comprehend your question because it is above my head. Could you restate it?
"I'm curious to know what scope of existence or importance beyond ourselves is dependant on a monogamous adulthood?"
(I don't know how to do the copy and paste thing with something from someone else's post)
"I'm curious to know what scope of existence or importance beyond ourselves is dependant on a monogamous adulthood?"
(I don't know how to do the copy and paste thing with something from someone else's post)