Jesus is Lord!
I have seen this on bumper stickers, TV and the internet, but I'm not quite sure what it means.
It seems to be saying that Jesus and the God are the same thing, is this correct?
Jesus is Lord?
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Post #121[Replying to post 120 by Yahu]
References please. I'm not in the habit of just believing things people tell me on the internet, do you have a concordance, Hebrews-English dictionary, interlinear reference... anything?
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References please. I'm not in the habit of just believing things people tell me on the internet, do you have a concordance, Hebrews-English dictionary, interlinear reference... anything?
JW
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Post #122I read several commentaries but here is something I found with a quick google search.JehovahsWitness wrote: [Replying to post 120 by Yahu]
References please. I'm not in the habit of just believing things people tell me on the internet, do you have a concordance, Hebrews-English dictionary, interlinear reference... anything?
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http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/shaddai.html
It confirms the same things I was saying but I didn't get that understanding on the net but from reading many commentaries. Obviously the writers of this site are also familiar with those same commentaries.
It covers both aspects of Yah as a provider and as a destroyer.
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Post #123Yahu wrote:I read several commentaries but here is something I found with a quick google search.JehovahsWitness wrote: [Replying to post 120 by Yahu]
References please. I'm not in the habit of just believing things people tell me on the internet, do you have a concordance, Hebrews-English dictionary, interlinear reference... anything?
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http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/shaddai.html
It confirms the same things I was saying but I didn't get that understanding on the net but from reading many commentaries. Obviously the writers of this site are also familiar with those same commentaries.
It covers both aspects of Yah as a provider and as a destroyer.
Thank you for your efforts, unfortunately the two links provided that could supported the Hebrew root meaning referenced don't seem to be working
The Hebrew word shaddai comes from the root word 'breast'. Literally translated it would mean 'many-breasted one'.
http://www.jungleweb.net/vanguard/FatherGod.html
There are two roots for the word: first is to be powerful and second is breast or nourisher and sustainer. The O.T. uses this form 48 times.
http://www.cyweb.com/~dschmidt/qv-docs/ ... dnames.htm
If you happen to recall the names and references of one or two of the "many commentaries" you have read that would be appreciated. The page you linked me to does nothing to increase my confidence in the authors linguistic capabilities by suggesting that the English word Shadow is somehow related to the Hebrew Shaddai
And while it seems the origins of "shaddai" are not entirely clear, I'm afraid I think the hypothesis that it comes from the root meaning of nipple utter garbage and unfounded pseudo babble... but hey, it's a theory.Over-SHAD-owing ... God/El "over" Shaddai to birth us.
Thanks anyway.
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Post #124Yahu wrote:onewithhim wrote: [Replying to post 116 by Yahu]
Yes, "El Shaddai" is a title. What do you mean by "epitaph"?
Perhaps you meant 'epithet' rather than 'epitaph.'It means a 'descriptive title' as a reference to an individual. An example of an epitaph of Apollo is he was also called Pheobus while Pheobus just means 'bright','light bringer' as a title because of his status as sun god.
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Post #126[Replying to JehovahsWitness]
If I remember right, I think one of the references was out of Emanuel Velokovsky's notes. I will see if I can find them on the net.
Here is another reference that shows the root is disputed. It covers all the names of Yah. I used this site while taking Hebrew in college as a help.
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_ ... El/el.html
The site states that the root was disputed but Strongs uses the root chosen for the Septuagint while other scholars dispute that choice. This isn't something I made up but came from researching the names of Yah. Shad can mean breast or nipple. When I did the study and realized that I thought it was funny that Yah compared Himself to a great nipple to provide for His children. He holds both roles of loving mother and stern father that disciplines His children.
If I remember right, I think one of the references was out of Emanuel Velokovsky's notes. I will see if I can find them on the net.
Here is another reference that shows the root is disputed. It covers all the names of Yah. I used this site while taking Hebrew in college as a help.
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_ ... El/el.html
The site states that the root was disputed but Strongs uses the root chosen for the Septuagint while other scholars dispute that choice. This isn't something I made up but came from researching the names of Yah. Shad can mean breast or nipple. When I did the study and realized that I thought it was funny that Yah compared Himself to a great nipple to provide for His children. He holds both roles of loving mother and stern father that disciplines His children.
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Post #127As an engineer, spelling isn't my strong point. It passed spell check so I thought I had the right spelling.
You are correct, Epitaph is an inscription on a tomb stone. I got them confused.
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Re: Jesus is Lord?
Post #128[Replying to post 120 by Yahu]
I understand, and it is an apt description of what YHWH is to His creations. He is all things to his "babies"; the provider of sustenance and all things that a baby (or His creation) needs.

I understand, and it is an apt description of what YHWH is to His creations. He is all things to his "babies"; the provider of sustenance and all things that a baby (or His creation) needs.

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Post #129Which is exactly how it is portrayed IMO as both a motherly and fatherly role over His creation. He is stern in discipline as a father but loving provider as in the role of a mother. Note I am not suggesting that Yah is both sexes but does have the role of both parents.onewithhim wrote: [Replying to post 120 by Yahu]
I understand, and it is an apt description of what YHWH is to His creations. He is all things to his "babies"; the provider of sustenance and all things that a baby (or His creation) needs.
Is there a more loving picture of the role of a mother then her breast feeding a infant? It is our culture that has turned that picture into something obscene and should be done behind closed doors. Applying cultural bias is a problem when you interpret scripture.
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Post #130INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
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