Does God love us?
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Does God love us?
Post #1Many people have doubts about God’s love when they see pain and suffering in the world. However pain and suffering, including those from so-called natural disasters occur because of sin in the world. God, however, does not give up on us. He brings peace and joy to all who accept his help (Psalm 23, Is 57:18-21; Ps 94:19). He comforts us by being one with us in our pain and suffering. He did this by becoming one of us and freely accepting the worst form of suffering and death. He gives us hope by overcoming suffering and death through his resurrection. Furthermore, He gave suffering redemptive value by responding to pain and suffering with love and forgiveness. This enables us to overcome sin and find peace and joy in the midst of pain and suffering (Peter 2:24, 25). Furthermore, because Jesus made suffering redemptive, when we see a suffering person it stirs up the spirit of love within us.
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[Replying to post 20 by JoeyKnothead]
Joey. Please bare with me for a moment but you simply can't know the op is a fraud or what he thinks.
Thank you.
Joey. Please bare with me for a moment but you simply can't know the op is a fraud or what he thinks.
Thank you.
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Re: Does God love us?
Post #22I believe that to some extent natural disasters are the result of human actions. And i bet you do to if you think that through.jeager106 wrote:Pardon me for commenting and editing your OP.arunangelo wrote: Many people have doubts about God’s love when they see pain and suffering in the world. However pain and suffering, including those from so-called natural disasters occur because of sin in the world.
Are you serious??????????????????????
You actually believe that natural disasters are the result of human actions?
You mean earthquakes, floods, tornadoes, hurricanes, tidal waves, and such?
Really?
Please back that up with something.
An asteroid impact that occured millions of years ago was induced by mankind?
Really?
Mertiors that enter the atmosphere are the result of something mankind did/does?
The Tungusta event of 1908 was somehow caused by mankind?
Bold claims require strong support.
How might the actions of man cause more earthquakes?
Aside from the fact that man has tested nuclear weapons underground many times, man has drawn billions of tons of oil up from far beneath the surface of the earth. This can adversely affect earth's surface in a couple of different ways. One is that oil in those pockets would act as a shock absorber, preventing platonic plate shift affects from expanding out so far under the earth's crust. And the second is that this oil is under pressure way down there under the earth as shown by oil gushers. That means that the oil is acting like a body upon which earth's crust rests weight. Even if we would use water to replace the oil we remove, water would do the job far inferior to oil as their weights and consequent displacement are far different. But we do not even usually replace the oil we draw out with anything, thus leaving the earth's crust's stress points to distribute themselves differently for the loss of support.
How might the actions of man cause more weather?
To begin with, if we have more earthquakes cause of man's greed for oil, then we also have more volcanic eruptions which sow to the atmosphere and we have variations of deep sea water temperatures which as it causes the surface of the water to warm increases the amount and force of updrafts. And then we add to that with our fossil fuel and oil burning which by virtue of our artificial manufacturing systems that replace the farmers of old as the way men made their living and burn many times more than even the individual homes we live in combined so that it exceeds the earth's capacity to keep up with natural regulation of it's atmosphere.
How might the actions of man cause more disease?
You don't cut down rain forests and remove excess timber from lands without it effects the biological balance of the soil in a few different ways, all of which allow for bacteria and viruses to live in man's portion of the earth in far greater abundance and allows some to be there in man's quarters that would not have otherwise been there at all.
Even digging up metal ores and minerals as well as drilling for oil brings the bacteria from deep below up to the surface above. Smaller amounts would likely somehow have always found their way up to the top but with man's massive machinery and greed for these things as though a necessity that amount is increases thousands of times over.
And we have not even yet mentioned man's chemicals.
So, jeager 106, it seems that Revelation 11:18 was right:
Revelation 11:18"And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth."
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My little attempt at levity (since the rest of this site is so....serious).
42 in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is the "Answer to The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything".
PCE Theology as I see it...
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.