Why isn't there a "Former atheist" group?

[achilles12604]

Just I thought I've had. Every religious group is covered. Every non-religious or un-religious group is covered. And then we have the "Former Christian" group. However, I at least fit into a former atheist group. I know of a couple others. I know most Christians were born and raised as such, but there is a group out there who rejected before they accepted.

[theleftone]

[url=http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... php?t=3281]This thread[/url will explain it.

[The Happy Humanist]

This thread will explain it.

(Just fixing the link so's I can go see it).

[theleftone]

This thread will explain it.

(Just fixing the link so's I can go see it).

Thanks for fixing it.

[The Happy Humanist]

Oh,well, heck, THAT was easy. Yes, you can go start your own.

I will say that I've come across boo-coo Christians who claim to be "reformed atheists," but upon further questioning seemed curiously unaware of many, many pro-atheist arguments, some of them seemingly very "fundamental" (you should pardon the term). This leads me, and my fellow heathens, to suspect that many, if not most, alleged "reformed atheists" paint themselves as such purely for "dramatic" purposes. "I, too, was once ungodly, a miserable wretch drowning in the abject darkness of atheism," blah, blah, blah...

Not to impugn you at all, Achilles, I tend to believe you. But the phenomena I describe is real, I assure you, and does no good to your side, so transparent is it and reeking of phoniness. So be careful who you admit to your new subgroup.

[jackrabbit]

Just I thought I've had. Every religious group is covered. Every non-religious or un-religious group is covered. And then we have the "Former Christian" group. However, I at least fit into a former atheist group. I know of a couple others. I know most Christians were born and raised as such, but there is a group out there who rejected before they accepted.

Everyone is a former atheist, unless they were born with knowledge of god.

[McCulloch]

Just I thought I've had. Every religious group is covered. Every non-religious or un-religious group is covered. And then we have the "Former Christian" group. However, I at least fit into a former atheist group. I know of a couple others. I know most Christians were born and raised as such, but there is a group out there who rejected before they accepted.

Everyone is a former atheist, unless they were born with knowledge of god.

If you use the philosophers' definition of atheist, a person who believes that there are not any gods, as opposed to the less strict common definition that an atheist is one who does not believe in any gods, then we are not born atheist or theist. We are born without belief in gods but without belief in the absence of gods too.
If someone wants to use their tokens to create a former atheist group, I would have no objections. Now, a former agnostic group would be somewhat meaningless, in my opinion.

[FiredUp4jesus]

Just I thought I've had. Every religious group is covered. Every non-religious or un-religious group is covered. And then we have the "Former Christian" group. However, I at least fit into a former atheist group. I know of a couple others. I know most Christians were born and raised as such, but there is a group out there who rejected before they accepted.

Everyone is a former atheist, unless they were born with knowledge of god.

According to Paul's Letter to the Romans 1:19 we are born with the knowledge of God, as well as the knowledge of good and evil. So, according to christian doctrine, you must actually reject your inherent knowledge of God to be an atheist.

[McCulloch]

According to Paul's Letter to the Romans 1:19 we are born with the knowledge of God, as well as the knowledge of good and evil. So, according to christian doctrine, you must actually reject your inherent knowledge of God to be an atheist.

Of course, if you are an atheist, you also reject christian doctrine. I don't believe that there is an inherent knowledge of God. I also don't believe that there is an inherent disbelief in God. We are born agnostics.

[FiredUp4jesus]

According to Paul's Letter to the Romans 1:19 we are born with the knowledge of God, as well as the knowledge of good and evil. So, according to christian doctrine, you must actually reject your inherent knowledge of God to be an atheist.

Of course, if you are an atheist, you also reject christian doctrine. I don't believe that there is an inherent knowledge of God. I also don't believe that there is an inherent disbelief in God. We are born agnostics.

Thanks for the reply! I've got a couple of quick questions for you. How do you know the difference between good and evil? I mean, where does your conscience come from? Did someone have to teach you that it is wrong to lie, steal or murder? Where do you think that knowledge came from?