I think you're blowing this out of proportion. If the Unruh law works in california like it would in other parts of the country and if the school is a wholly owned non-profit subsidiary of the wisconsin evangelical synod then the case has no basis. However if the school is a separate for profit entity then they will be liable. All the other charges appear to be nothing more than smoke and mirrors.
I would bet the only reason why this case is even being let forward is so they have a test case for future reference.
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It proves that The Gay Agenda is for real.
It proves that Christians are the target of a systematic dismantling by the use of invented laws.
It is just another example of the torment Christians are enduring at the hands of liberal/progressives and the Gay lobby.
It proves that Christians are the target of a systematic dismantling by the use of invented laws.
It is just another example of the torment Christians are enduring at the hands of liberal/progressives and the Gay lobby.
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Nah.1John2_26 wrote:Edited. Just realize that Christians are in dire trouble from the Gay Agenda. Islam-Secularism-Gay Agenda. In that order.
Only "Christians" who stick their noses into the personal lives and externally harmless behaviours of other people are being opposed.
Homosexuals are in dire trouble from the fundamentalist "Christian" agenda.
The difference is this: the homosexual activists are reacting defensively to an ongoing, intense attack from the RR.
And, to be honest, this is true for the other categories you mention. Secularists and Islamists would more than likely (secularists for sure, Islam - not sure, because the Islamic RR has to follow the dictates of God, just like the Christian RR) back off. And once again, using honesty instead of propaganda, the only thing the secularists want (like homosexuals) is to be allowed to believe and live as they do without having the religious beliefs of others imposed on them.
So, John, if you care about the RR, and if it bothers you to see polemic against the RR on the internet or in the occasional newspaper editorial, you can help them.
Help them to focus on keeping their religious beliefs to themselves.
You'll be amazed at how the "persecution" (which is really just self-defense against the attacking fundamentalists) disappears!
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"Fundamentalists" or the honest? Honest people don't change words of the Bible, physiology, biology and anatomy. Everything is left there (in its proper place).You'll be amazed at how the "persecution" (which is really just self-defense against the attacking fundamentalists) disappears!
Christians have all along said that gays and lesbians and secularists - yada-yada . . . - were methodically outlawing Christianity.
Again, the Christians were being honest and correct. "Correct" being a far more appropriate word to use then "right" as that now has been changed by "you know who" to silence the Christians.
I have no problem seeing things "in the light."
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Why is it that christian schools that accept federal money think they don't have to follow the same rules that any other institution does?
The part of the article that stated what the unruh law is said nothing about christians so please show how christians are being targeted?
How does it show that this "gay agenda" is real? No supporting evidence is given that homosexuals were involved except the two children.
Torment? If you consider this case torment you haven't suffered much in your life.
The part of the article that stated what the unruh law is said nothing about christians so please show how christians are being targeted?
How does it show that this "gay agenda" is real? No supporting evidence is given that homosexuals were involved except the two children.
Torment? If you consider this case torment you haven't suffered much in your life.
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Does christianity exist outside of other people's underwear? Is the highest expression of this religion the grilling of young girls about oral sex? Is the best aspiration of the christian spirit to investigate a young man's anus?
Is that all you have?
I'm appaled that this sort of witch-hunt against a couple of young girls can take place, and at a school no less. Whatever happened to common decency?
Yes, it's true that religious institutions can discriminate. We have to let the theists be as bigoted as they want, or else they get all violent on us. Hatred, animosity, and spite are the main forms of christianity, as it appears in the US today.
But in this particular case, I think the school is in pretty big trouble. It seems, from the article, pretty clear that the girls were not found to have actually violated any existing rule at the school. They were expelled because the principle thinks they might be that sort of person.
Of course, any school official who sits around fantasizing about his female students engaged in rampant lesbianism should be immediately discharged. But don't expect that to happen.
Advice to christians: Get your nose out of my groin. OK?
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Is that all you have?
I'm appaled that this sort of witch-hunt against a couple of young girls can take place, and at a school no less. Whatever happened to common decency?
Yes, it's true that religious institutions can discriminate. We have to let the theists be as bigoted as they want, or else they get all violent on us. Hatred, animosity, and spite are the main forms of christianity, as it appears in the US today.
But in this particular case, I think the school is in pretty big trouble. It seems, from the article, pretty clear that the girls were not found to have actually violated any existing rule at the school. They were expelled because the principle thinks they might be that sort of person.
Of course, any school official who sits around fantasizing about his female students engaged in rampant lesbianism should be immediately discharged. But don't expect that to happen.
Advice to christians: Get your nose out of my groin. OK?
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Fundamentalists. Not honest - just dogmatic and hateful. And intrusive.1John2_26 wrote:"Fundamentalists" or the honest?
Then I guess the scribes who copied the copies of the copies of the copies of the originals aren't honest, because their alterations are there for anyone who wants to know the truth to see.Honest people don't change words of the Bible
Of course they have. And they were lying then as now. It makes for better propaganda to put oneself up as a victim, when in fact oneself is a bigoted liar, out to impose oneself's views on others by whatever means necessary.Christians have all along said that gays and lesbians and secularists - yada-yada . . . - were methodically outlawing Christianity.
No, they weren't correct or honest.Again, the Christians were being honest and correct. "Correct" being a far more appropriate word to use then "right" as that now has been changed by "you know who" to silence the Christians.
Listen carefully: homosexuals don't want Christians to become gay. They don't want to kill Christians. They don't want Christianity to be outlawed. They don't want Christians to engage in homosexual sex. They don't want Christians to disavow their Christianity. They just want the "Christians" to leave them alone.
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Forcing private sex acts on children is intrusive. That is the new California laws. Forcing Christians to submit to homosexual political power is also "intrusive."1John2_26 wrote:
"Fundamentalists" or the honest?
Fundamentalists. Not honest - just dogmatic and hateful. And intrusive.
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Honest people don't change words of the Bible
Then I guess the scribes who copied the copies of the copies of the copies of the originals aren't honest, because their alterations are there for anyone who wants to know the truth to see.
That old skeptic ploy may work on the shallow-minded but not me. I am a free thinker. The same message from beginning to end. God will not be mocked. For long.
It seems that evidence is not on your side. But the liars are. And they are not Christians.Quote:
Christians have all along said that gays and lesbians and secularists - yada-yada . . . - were methodically outlawing Christianity.
Of course they have. And they were lying then as now.
It makes for better propaganda to put oneself up as a victim, when in fact oneself is a bigoted liar, out to impose oneself's views on others by whatever means necessary.
Including "hate crimes legislation" and inventing a new word "homophobia" and then outlawing whatever the heckj the Gay Culture and Community wants it to mean. It seems clear they want children to embrace unnatural sex acts.
Wrong on two accounts. Correct on one. Why kill "breeders?"Quote:
Again, the Christians were being honest and correct. "Correct" being a far more appropriate word to use then "right" as that now has been changed by "you know who" to silence the Christians.
No, they weren't correct or honest.
Listen carefully: homosexuals don't want Christians to become gay. They don't want to kill Christians. They don't want Christianity to be outlawed.
They don't want Christians to engage in homosexual sex.
Gay Evangelicalism proves your point wrong again.
Wrong on both counts.They don't want Christians to disavow their Christianity. They just want the "Christians" to leave them alone.
There are pleanty of gay-straight "alliances" even trumpeting that they are Christian organizations.
It is clear that most peope just do not want to look at facts and evidence. Christians declare both.
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Read the New Testament. This school was doing what Christians have done since Jesus explained what marriage IS. Also, when He told a whore to go and sin no more. Jesus is now in violation of California law.Does christianity exist outside of other people's underwear? Is the highest expression of this religion the grilling of young girls about oral sex?
Is the best aspiration of the christian spirit to investigate a young man's anus?
That would clearly be the aspiration of homosexual sex. You need to consult anatome books as well as the Bible.
Is that all you have?
Truth is all that is needed.
yes, why didn't these girls just leave the school alone and move to another "PRIVATE" school without having to force their sexual behavior on Christians?I'm appaled that this sort of witch-hunt against a couple of young girls can take place, and at a school no less. Whatever happened to common decency?
Islam and atheism. Start ringing up the dead over the last hundred years?Yes, it's true that religious institutions can discriminate. We have to let the theists be as bigoted as they want, or else they get all violent on us.
Hatred, animosity, and spite are the main forms of christianity, as it appears in the US today.
Brain-washing works as you are parroting the liberal-progressive mythology. Not to many atheists organizations feeding starving Africans last time I watched late night TV.
he met with them. It is his right. You are right though. This Christian school joins other victims of the Gay Agenda and is in trouble. We Christians can only pray for them to escape the tyranny invented by the sexual orientation laws invented to silence Christians.But in this particular case, I think the school is in pretty big trouble. It seems, from the article, pretty clear that the girls were not found to have actually violated any existing rule at the school. They were expelled because the principle thinks they might be that sort of person.
Of course, any school official who sits around fantasizing about his female students engaged in rampant lesbianism should be immediately discharged. But don't expect that to happen.
Sounds like he could get a higher paying job at HBO or Showtime, Bravo, or NBC, CBS, or ABC. But, don't expect that to happen. Those places hate Christians.
Then don't make sexual perversion a civil right.Advice to christians: Get your nose out of my groin. OK?
