Faith and "creationism"

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Faith and "creationism"

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My opinion is that "creationism" and religions are strange.

Christians in America continually ask for the scientists to prove there isn't a god. Why should scientists do this? Its as ridiculous as to ask them to prove that leprachauns exist in my back garden. But my neighbour BELIEVES there there, she has FAITH there there. Her mommy showed her a book about them. It was written many years ago. She has been taught from early childhood that they are there, and they do wonderful and magical things. Sometimes I hear her singing to them.

I am beginning to think she is crazy.

Now we all need good spiritual health, that is undeniable , it has led to the creation (theres that word again) of religions all over the world.

Here in Ireland, my ancestors, the Celts, worshiped the sun. Every morning they saw a beautiful sun-rise(most mornings anyway). They wondered what it was. They decided it must be a sort of God, so they worshiped it and built incredible temple mounds. They had FAITH in it. But of course science took over , and we discovered it was a gigantic nuclear fire-ball. #-o DOH!!

New-Age Christians need to embrace real science and adapt their beliefs to it. Maybe not take the Bible literally, you know, maybe he created a multiverse with many many different universes, and we are just part of a multitude of intelligent beings.

Adapt, believe all you want. I still won't believe until the leprechauns say "top of the morn'n to ye" to me under a morning sun-rise.

What is the basis of faith?

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They decided it must be a sort of God, so they worshiped it and built incredible temple mounds. They had FAITH in it.
Ah, interesting point. Of course, they didn't really need faith, did they, since they could see their god everyday. If you choose to worship the sun, I have to grudgingly admit that you god exists.

Of course, once you show that your god exists then we have to worry about whether what you believe about god is correct or not. But modern religions aren't even up to the level of showing that their god exists.

So let's hear it for the sun-worshippers.

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juliod wrote:So let's hear it for the sun-worshippers.
Except... I wonder how many innocent people were killed in sacrifice to ensure that the sun came up again the following day? We can probably Multiply that by an even greater factor when it came to the winter solstice -- everyone could see the sun gradually leaving the sky for the horizon :blink:

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Hi

Thanks for your replies. I won't pretend to be as smart as most of you guys on this forum, but I was just wondering - what is it that makes humans believe or want to believe in a creator? Is is the "God gene" or is it something deeper?

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smashing wrote:I was just wondering - what is it that makes humans believe or want to believe in a creator? Is is the "God gene" or is it something deeper?
You may wish to explore that idea The 'god gene' or The God Gene.
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
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juliod wrote:
They decided it must be a sort of God, so they worshiped it and built incredible temple mounds. They had FAITH in it.
Ah, interesting point. Of course, they didn't really need faith, did they, since they could see their god everyday. If you choose to worship the sun, I have to grudgingly admit that you god exists.
Well, I'm sure that they gave their 'god' more characteristics than just showing up every morning, and those characteristics would require faith. Worshipping the sun is no more rational than worshipping a rock, just because it exists doesn't mean it's worthy of a religion being built around it.

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smashing wrote:Thanks for your replies. I won't pretend to be as smart as most of you guys on this forum, but I was just wondering - what is it that makes humans believe or want to believe in a creator? Is is the "God gene" or is it something deeper?
Actually, there's an interesting book out there that examines this.

The Psychological Roots of Religious Belief; Searching for Angels and the Parent-God by M.D. Faber, New York: Prometheus Books, 2004

He contends that most people look for a "parental" figure in their deities because they seek a psychological return to infancy where all of your needs and desires are taken care of by the all-powerful parent figure.

It's an interesting read.

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