Are there any current events which prove the Bible?

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Are there any current events which prove the Bible?

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AlAyeti wrote:You would be surprised at how much my views are drawn on literally empirical means. The 5pm news is proving the Bible right every single day.

I have watched the 6pm news and the 10 pm news and read the morning newspaper. I have not seen anything which by any stretch of my imagination would constitute a proof of anything in the Bible. Do Canadian news sources edit out these biblical proofs? Am I missing some subtlety?

Question for debate: Are there any current events which prove the Bible?
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Christians are a vocal lot. By the way hardly ever talking about their sex acts in a parade (or anywhere else).

You sure do spend a lot of time talking about others sex acts and your very graphic.
You should read Ezekiel.

I just don't like people pissing saying its raining. There is just about no political or religious statement made today that doesn't want Biblical views wiped away for the cause of sexual hedonism to not have to be challlenged. Without authentic Christians the children of the world would suffer far worse than they are already.
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My obseesion is about the attack on decent Christian people by the homosexual agenda and its activist priests. But, I view them third on the list of the most dangerous and intolerant. Homosexuals dwell behind Muslims and Atheists.

I find it funny how you lump all these together.
I have a Biblical view on the world. You should study how the Israeilites felt about their world views.
Are you saying behind those Muslims and Atheist are closet homosexuals?
Pederasty does seem to trace its roots to the mid-east. But that is another thread. Atheists stand with those they support.
Massachusetts and Europe when did they become unchristian and places of sin?
As soon as Christianty was silenced and forgotten to embrace the anything-goes of evolutionary theology. That would find me giving an affirmitive the unchristian sinful condition of Europe and of course Massachusetts
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You are proof that the myth of satan lives on.
Men are not demanding to marry men? And, the western world is not agreeing to this madness? Satan is a myth? So when women say they are Lesbians, they are really just citizens of a little island, where an ancient female poet - married to a man - wrote erotic pederastic tales?

Whew. Now I can go back to trying to stop the uncontrolled murder of unborn children with more of my time.

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AlAyeti wrote:..Animals seem to know what their rectums are for. It is instinct. Also their throats. They seem to understand what humans cannot. I thought evolution worked the other way? Isn't that the story in the myth?
You seem to be thinking of only some animals. Remember those bonobos, that settle disputes by female-female sex? It works pretty well, apparently--there is very little strife in their societies. What about those lizards that have done away with males altogether, and have eggs that develop parthnogenically? They still have to have sex to stimulate acivation of the egg. Yet, the entire species is one sex. What about nematodes--self-fertilizing hermaphrodites? What about apes masturbating? What about the fact that rats engage in homosexual mounting--and the frequency with which they do increases as the population density increases? There seem to be a number of biological examples of which you are blissfully unaware.

As for evolution "working the other way," you are, indeed, speaking of a myth. Among those who don't understand evolution, there seems to be this myth that evolution is some kind of trend toward "improvement" with humans as the "Pinnacle of the Evolutionary Ladder." Hogwash. You might want to read up on the biology, since it might help you avoid statements like this. "Working the other way," indeed.
AlAyeti wrote: I have an aversion to being beheaded. call it a weakness. Seems the intolerant ones read the Koran now doesn't it? You have a TV?
Hmmm...I have an aversion to being bombed, my country invaded, and a massive military force occupying it. I might ask what, if anything, these agressors would notice. Apparently not much. They certainly don't abide by International Law. [uhh...that's the US we're talking about here.] I also have an aversion to being shot if I work in a Planned Parenthood office, or being blown up because some Christian wacko--since executed--is mad at the government for their treatment of another branch of my militant church (David's branch--you know, the Branch Davidians in Waco, TX).

I don't think you can blame all of the intolerance on other religions.
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Excel wrote:You deny that homosexuality is unnatural. Let's see some proof of divine intervention.
Believing that the human anatomy can be violated because of a person's unwillingness to see physiological facts, has got to come from somewhere other than a mind that sees facts. I have said (wrote) many times that homosexuals should found their own religion.
That's a great point, Excel. But an odd answer. Al, you continually seem to refuse to accept the fact that there is more to gender than external plumbing. You say you demand facts, but you ignore those that don't fit your preconceived notions.
AlAyeti wrote:Evolution is a religion now that proclaims relativism as a dogma.
Excel wrote: What makes evolution a religion?
It is faith-based and usues circualr reasoning. A PhD doesn't discount the salespitch in an evolutionist's mouth.
Pretty dogmatic, Al. You've chosen your own "faith" of pretending that the examination of facts is itself "faith," even when you claim to hold the examination of facts to be the most important thing (aside from being born-again, I suppose). I suggest that you look at the religions of the various scientists throughout the world who study evolution, and who accept evolution even if they don't study it directly. You'll find that just about all faiths are represented. Funny...you'd think that if someone holds some official religion, that they wouldn't have a different one instead. Or is this what you are trying to say?

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Uhh...but what does any of this stuff about licentious hedonism have to do with the thread topic? Let's get back to the current events that prove the bible. Saying "there are homosexuals" won't do, because they seem to have existed as long as there are records. It's like saying "there's gravity" and the bible says there's gravity, so the bible must be true. OK...what about the less mundane things?
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AlAyeti wrote:
..Animals seem to know what their rectums are for. It is instinct. Also their throats. They seem to understand what humans cannot. I thought evolution worked the other way? Isn't that the story in the myth?
You seem to be thinking of only some animals. Remember those bonobos, that settle disputes by female-female sex? It works pretty well, apparently--there is very little strife in their societies.
Though they've yet to use palm pilots or invent the technology.
What about those lizards that have done away with males altogether, and have eggs that develop parthnogenically?
"Kinds" you mean?
They still have to have sex to stimulate acivation of the egg.


Or what would appear like sex no?
Yet, the entire species is one sex. What about nematodes--self-fertilizing hermaphrodites?
What did they come from and what are the going to? I understand evolution and it does work one way.
What about apes masturbating?
Would that they have a female?
What about the fact that rats engage in homosexual mounting--and the frequency with which they do increases as the population density increases?


Mental illness in human beings was harrassed out of the APA and its DSM by homosexual activism. Not exactly sound scientific methodology. Crazy rats prove my point not GLSEN's.
There seem to be a number of biological examples of which you are blissfully unaware.


Blissfully unaware I wish. People like you use these bizaare aspects in nature to equate it to human behavior that is immoral, indecent and forced on a populace that wishes they could saty blissfully unaware of sexual perversion. You OK with two grand moms at a picnic rubbing vulvas?
As for evolution "working the other way," you are, indeed, speaking of a myth.
That would come as a surprise to all of those ape-men in the progressive order to a three piece suited executive huh?
Among those who don't understand evolution, there seems to be this myth that evolution is some kind of trend toward "improvement" with humans as the "Pinnacle of the Evolutionary Ladder."
Probably from what our biology teachers obviously forced on us.
Hogwash. You might want to read up on the biology, since it might help you avoid statements like this. "Working the other way," indeed.
So there are apes turning into squirrels? You may be confusing extinction with noitulove. Or MTV spring-break behavior to Catholic school morals class.
AlAyeti wrote:
I have an aversion to being beheaded. call it a weakness. Seems the intolerant ones read the Koran now doesn't it? You have a TV?

Hmmm...I have an aversion to being bombed, my country invaded, and a massive military force occupying it.


And that justifies beheading a truck driver? Killing people on a bus no where near Iraq?
I might ask what, if anything, these agressors would notice. Apparently not much. They certainly don't abide by International Law. [uhh...that's the US we're talking about here.]


Would that be international law legislated by Syrians? Or one of many other terrorist nations sitting on the UN?
I also have an aversion to being shot if I work in a Planned Parenthood office, or being blown up because some Christian wacko--since executed--is mad at the government for their treatment of another branch of my militant church (David's branch--you know, the Branch Davidians in Waco, TX).
Christians should follow the Gospel and not vote for democrats.
I don't think you can blame all of the intolerance on other religions.


Christians are hi-jacking how many planes in history? How many Christian youth are strapping bombs on their little tummies and pushing the button on a crowded bus? Holy War is where in the New Testament?
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Excel wrote:
You deny that homosexuality is unnatural. Let's see some proof of divine intervention.
Believing that the human anatomy can be violated because of a person's unwillingness to see physiological facts, has got to come from somewhere other than a mind that sees facts. I have said (wrote) many times that homosexuals should found their own religion.
That's a great point, Excel. But an odd answer. Al, you continually seem to refuse to accept the fact that there is more to gender than external plumbing. You say you demand facts, but you ignore those that don't fit your preconceived notions.
Transgendered is just a a chromosome test away. If the x's and y's add up then I'll go with the scientific facts. But I bet the gay-lesbian lobby will not.
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Evolution is a religion now that proclaims relativism as a dogma. Excel wrote:
What makes evolution a religion?
It is faith-based and usues circualr reasoning. A PhD doesn't discount the salespitch in an evolutionist's mouth.
Pretty dogmatic, Al. You've chosen your own "faith" of pretending that the examination of facts is itself "faith," even when you claim to hold the examination of facts to be the most important thing (aside from being born-again, I suppose).
Evolution has its Prophets, Priests and totalitarianism. And the WMD's and wars to prove it.
I suggest that you look at the religions of the various scientists throughout the world who study evolution, and who accept evolution even if they don't study it directly. You'll find that just about all faiths are represented. Funny...you'd think that if someone holds some official religion, that they wouldn't have a different one instead. Or is this what you are trying to say?
I just want the right to be skeptical of evolution by cause and effect.

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Uhh...but what does any of this stuff about licentious hedonism have to do with the thread topic?


Sodom and Gomorrah are not myth but rising up on the Five O'Clock news and legislation worldwide.
Let's get back to the current events that prove the bible. Saying "there are homosexuals" won't do, because they seem to have existed as long as there are records.


The world before Noah was sealed into the ark. It is happening before our eyes. It is evolving before our very eyes.
It's like saying "there's gravity" and the bible says there's gravity, so the bible must be true. OK...what about the less mundane things?
Mankind is grasping abominations and fighting against those that try to stop it. It is no longer debateable.

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McCulloch wrote:
Paul to Timothy wrote:
Most Biblical scholars today have pretty good reasons for believing that Timothy was not written by Paul but was a later forged letter written in Paul's name and written at a much later date.

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