Evolutionist Discrimination in Public Education.

[jcrawford]

There are currently five categories which the U.S. legally recognizes in which persons may voluntarily identify and classify themselves as, according to their self-evident, self-recognized and self-identified common ancestral racial traits of national and geographic origins. None of these categories are Homo sapiens.

http://atlas.usafa.af.mil/meo/Discri~1.htm

http://www.withylaw.com/distopic.htm

http://www.wvf.state.wv.us/eeo/NO.htm

http://mountain-prairie.fws.gov/dcr/Basis.htm

http://www.niehs.nih.gov/oeeo/national.htm

As far as the U.S. legal system is concerned, there does not seem to be any legally protected class of persons called Homo sapiens or any ancestral category of persons named Homo erectus from whom Homo sapiens are believed by neo-Darwinists to have descended.

Since it may reasonably be considered to be a violation of their civil rights to have their human ancestors related to, or called, anything other than what the U.S. Government recognizes as legally protected classes of persons, I respectfully submit that teachers and students in U.S. public school systems who publically volunteer to self-identify and self-classify themselves as members of any of the legally recognized and protected classes of persons established by law, may not be involuntarily labeled and classified as Homo sapiens in public schools without their written consent or the written consent of their parents or legal guardians.

Otherwise, if state governments continue to mandate and impose evolutionary neo-Darwinist beliefs and teachings about the human ancestry of the five legitimate racial catagories in which students and teachers have voluntarily chosen to identify and classify themselves as, then public school students and teachers have every right to sue the state for civil rights violations and a redress of racial and ancestral grievances.

[Excel]

Facts can't stand on their own, Grumpy. They don't have any legs, and you know that the world is only round nowadays because everyone believes it is. If everyone thought it was flat, you would be laughed off the face of the planet if you said it was round. You do remember your medieval history, don't you?

But even if everyone thought the world was flat, does that mean it was? Do you believe that reality is solely human perception?

African people evolving from monkey and ape ancestors

Not just Africans, all humans evolved from the same common ancestor.

special and unique human ancestry

So does that mean that white europeans are descended from Noah while other people aren't?

[jcrawford]

But even if everyone thought the world was flat, does that mean it was? Do you believe that reality is solely human perception?

Of course not, on both counts. Reality is determined by God.

all humans evolved from the same common ancestor.

Not if African people didn't evolve first and only. No human evolution is claimed to have occurred outside of Africa by neo-Darwinst race threorists themsleves, other than the extinction of human races and species, if you want to call that human 'evolution.' According to modern neo-darwinst race theory, all stages of human evolution out of monkey and ape ancestors occurred in Africa and non-Africans are just normally reproduced descendents of other H. sapiens like themselves.

So does that mean that white europeans are descended from Noah while other people aren't?

Of course not. All humans have descended from Noah's ancestors and descendents.

Thank you for posting your excellent observations, enquiries and comments on this thread, Excel.

[steen]

But even if everyone thought the world was flat, does that mean it was? Do you believe that reality is solely human perception?

Of course not, on both counts. Reality is determined by God.

Well, that is a suubjective, unsubstantiated personal belief. Unfortunately, such personal wishful thinking is not evidence of anything other than your wishful thinking.

all humans evolved from the same common ancestor.

Not if African people didn't evolve first and only. No human evolution is claimed to have occurred outside of Africa by neo-Darwinst race threorists themsleves, other than the extinction of human races and species, if you want to call that human 'evolution.'

huh? Your claim simply doesn't make sense, indicating that you don't even know what Evolution is. What perhaps you mean was something about the evolution of new species, right? Because certainly, as evolution occurs with every generation, your original claim would be a flat-out lie.

According to modern neo-darwinst race theory,

really? Do you have a link to their manifest?

all stages of human evolution out of monkey and ape ancestors occurred in Africa and non-Africans are just normally reproduced descendents of other H. sapiens like themselves.

Once again, yourt statement makes no sense whatsoever, as Evolution occurs even within the species of H. sapiens.

[jcrawford]

Reality is determined by God.

Well, that is a suubjective, unsubstantiated personal belief. Unfortunately, such personal wishful thinking is not evidence of anything other than your wishful thinking.

Let's put it this way then. Whole civilizations and individuals in them don't get to create their own reality for very long given the vast time scale of history and the short duration of their lifespan within it.

No human evolution is claimed to have occurred outside of Africa by neo-Darwinst race threorists themselves, other than the extinction of human races and species, if you want to call that human 'evolution.'

What perhaps you mean was something about the evolution of new species, right?

Of course. You don't consider the evolution of human races part of neo-Darwinist theory, do you? If you do, then we can talk turkey today. Happy thanksgiving.

all stages of human evolution out of monkey and ape ancestors occurred in Africa and non-Africans are just normally reproduced descendents of other H. sapiens like themselves.

Once again, yourt statement makes no sense whatsoever, as Evolution occurs even within the species of H. sapiens.

Ah, so you do believe in racial evolution within a species.

Gobble gobble.

[Cathar1950]

Ah, so you do believe in racial evolution within a species.

If you mean change and adaptation I would say yes. I you and your family move back to Africa where your ancestors originally migrated from in a few thousand years maybe even only 20,000 your descendents would look just like every one else provided any of them survived. Part do to the genes you have that alow adaptation to a sunny climate and part do to population blend. But they would still be just as human as the humans there now human. But no matter what you are not a Neanderthal except in a name calling manner.

[steen]

Reality is determined by God.

Well, that is a suubjective, unsubstantiated personal belief. Unfortunately, such personal wishful thinking is not evidence of anything other than your wishful thinking.

Let's put it this way then. Whole civilizations and individuals in them don't get to create their own reality for very long given the vast time scale of history and the short duration of their lifespan within it.

But that still doesn't prove your claim so that is an utterly irrelevant answer.

No human evolution is claimed to have occurred outside of Africa by neo-Darwinst race threorists themselves, other than the extinction of human races and species, if you want to call that human 'evolution.'

What perhaps you mean was something about the evolution of new species, right?

Of course.

So you ignore all of the evolution that does not generate new species? then you better clarify that, as what you seek to discuss is only a very minute part of the Scientific Theory of Evolution and its scientific evidence.

You don't consider the evolution of human races part of neo-Darwinist theory, do you? If you do, then we can talk turkey today. Happy thanksgiving.

As I don't know what "neo-Darwinist theory" is, I can't answer that. I generally deal with the Scientific Theory of Evolution.

all stages of human evolution out of monkey and ape ancestors occurred in Africa and non-Africans are just normally reproduced descendents of other H. sapiens like themselves.

Once again, yourt statement makes no sense whatsoever, as Evolution occurs even within the species of H. sapiens.

Ah, so you do believe in racial evolution within a species.

What do you mean. Changes in alleles can happen throughout a population without any separation into races. Your claims don't make sense. STILL

[jcrawford]

But no matter what you are not a Neanderthal except in a name calling manner.

You are not a Homo sapiens sapiens except in a name-calling manner either. I wouldn't even call you a Homo of any kind, regardless of your species.

[Grumpy]

JC

No human evolution is claimed to have occurred outside of Africa by neo-Darwinst race threorists themselves, other than the extinction of human races and species, if you want to call that human 'evolution.'

Of course human evolution has continued after Homo Sapiens Sapiens left Africa(though because of little competition for successful reproduction, at a greatly reduced rate), differences have arrisen within the single species of man. The extinction of Neanderthals is an example of nature"Red of tooth and claw". They were in competition with us as an apex preditor(or top dog, if you will). Lions will not tolerate Tigers in their territory for the same reasons. Unfortunatly for the Tiger it is a solitary animal and Lions run in prides.

Reality is determined by God.

Reality is. Whether God had anything to do with it is yet to be determined.

Grumpy 8)

[jcrawford]

So you ignore all of the evolution that does not generate new species?

I'm not concerned about evolutionist theories which do not generate new species.

then you better clarify that, as what you seek to discuss is only a very minute part of the Scientific Theory of Evolution and its scientific evidence.

Ok. I limit my discussions of evolutionist theory to human beings since I have never observed the scientific evolution of any species.

As I don't know what "neo-Darwinist theory" is, I can't answer that. I generally deal with the Scientific Theory of Evolution.

Never heard of it. Is it anything like Darwin's original theory on the origin of species and descent of man?

Changes in alleles can happen throughout a population without any separation into races.

How do you account for the evolution of one human species into another then, if changes in alleles never result in racial diversification within a species or within a racial group?

[jcrawford]

Of course human evolution has continued after Homo Sapiens Sapiens left Africa(though because of little competition for successful reproduction, at a greatly reduced rate), differences have arrisen within the single species of man.

Some of the superficial physical differences and characteristics which have arisen in various H. sapiens sapiens specimens throughout the world seem to have resulted in the creation of several unique and distinct racial types and groups within sapiens long history. This may be due to their racial inbreeding in relative geographic isolation from each other until recent centuries.