Does "Debauchery" define Liberal politics?

[AlAyeti]

Why are people that self-identify as "Christian," supporting Liberal politics?

Liberals have ignored or broken laws to corrupt children, redefine marriage and family and stand in opposition to parental rights.

In the last week Liberals continued to promote laws in a California state-wide vote, that children can engage in sex and have abortions without any rights of the parents being important to the issues that involve their own children.

Abortion is a means to unfettered sexual intercourse as well as eliminating any consequences that arise from sexual promiscuity. Supporting the loss of chastity and and virtue is inherent in Liberal politics and indeed its ideology. Why do Christians still support Liberals?

The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed that schools can teach children sexuality and parents have no rights to what is being taught to their children in schools.

Debauchery is to corrupt anothers virtue or chastity.

Why would Christians want to be part of an political movement that targets children in schools?

Clearly this word "debauched" defines the sexual licentiousness and unfettered promiscuity that is the "core values" in the Liberal political movement across America today.

Are not Christians "called" to purity and virtue?

Why do Christians that have read the words of Christ Jesus, "especially on corrupting children," continue to support Liberal politics?

[Cathar1950]

I was writing of conservatives and the Authoritarian Personality.
If it sounds like Islam to you is a matter of projection and identification on your part with your so called religious enemy.
You seem to do a lot of projecting. I still think your pants are on fire.

[Cephus]

Liberals have ignored or broken laws to corrupt children, redefine marriage and family and stand in opposition to parental rights.

Lie. Or are you thinking that the Catholic church is now a liberal church?

In the last week Liberals continued to promote laws in a California state-wide vote, that children can engage in sex and have abortions without any rights of the parents being important to the issues that involve their own children.

No, the laws exist because people have rights to do what they want without being forced by others to follow their morals. I might not agree with a lot of what goes on, but if you think for one second that you're going to stop minors from having sex, you're living in a fantasy land.

Abortion is a means to unfettered sexual intercourse as well as eliminating any consequences that arise from sexual promiscuity. Supporting the loss of chastity and and virtue is inherent in Liberal politics and indeed its ideology. Why do Christians still support Liberals?

Okay, now we know you're living in a fantasy land. When was the last time you went outside, 1950?

The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed that schools can teach children sexuality and parents have no rights to what is being taught to their children in schools.

Another lie. Parents can opt out of sex education for their children. They always have been able to. What parents CAN'T do, which apparently you want to be able to do, is tell EVERYONE ELSE they can't have sex education.

[AlAyeti]

I was writing of conservatives and the Authoritarian Personality.
If it sounds like Islam to you is a matter of projection and identification on your part with your so called religious enemy.
You seem to do a lot of projecting. I still think your pants are on fire.

You pitiless views of Islamic atrocities against Christians is unsettling. I project what are facts. You do read the newspapaers and/or have a TV, I hope? Muslims are fighting the "Crusaders" and cannot get past their hatred of Christianty.

Man, do the math.

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AlAyeti wrote:
Liberals have ignored or broken laws to corrupt children, redefine marriage and family and stand in opposition to parental rights.

Lie. Or are you thinking that the Catholic church is now a liberal church?

I am a "protest . . . ant." You can fill in the blanks on my views on Catholcism on many, many things.

In the last week Liberals continued to promote laws in a California state-wide vote, that children can engage in sex and have abortions without any rights of the parents being important to the issues that involve their own children.

No, the laws exist because people have rights to do what they want without being forced by others to follow their morals. I might not agree with a lot of what goes on, but if you think for one second that you're going to stop minors from having sex, you're living in a fantasy land.

Who is living in the fantsy land? I believe children in school should see scientific facts about humans inside the uterus prior to birth. I want children taught sex by the scientific facts of anatomy, physiology and biolgy, anything else needs to be questioned as an agenda. No different than religions being taught in schools. Questioning motives is the right thing to do.

Abortion is a means to unfettered sexual intercourse as well as eliminating any consequences that arise from sexual promiscuity. Supporting the loss of chastity and and virtue is inherent in Liberal politics and indeed its ideology. Why do Christians still support Liberals?

Okay, now we know you're living in a fantasy land. When was the last time you went outside, 1950?

Please, I'd be interested in how the Liberal views on MTV compare with the Gospels? Please?

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The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed that schools can teach children sexuality and parents have no rights to what is being taught to their children in schools.

Another lie. Parents can opt out of sex education for their children. They always have been able to. What parents CAN'T do, which apparently you want to be able to do, is tell EVERYONE ELSE they can't have sex education.

I do not lie and have not in this case as well:

http://www.sltrib.com/nationworld/ci_3225556

Over objections from some Democrats, lawmakers voted 320 to 91 for a resolution that said the decision by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ''deplorably infringed on parental rights.''
The resolution says the 9th Circuit should rehear Fields v. Palmdale School District. The unanimous ruling by a three-judge panel earlier this month said that ''parents are possessed of no constitutional right to prevent the public schools from providing information'' on sex to students.

OF COURSE, over objections from "some" Democrats.

You can take the words "lie" or "liars" and place them where they belong, as they do not apply to me.

You may want to look up those "some Democrats." I'm sure most will be of the "Liberal" type.

Like I wrote "debauchery" defines Liberal politics.

[Cathar1950]

AlAyeti wrote:

You pitiless views of Islamic atrocities against Christians is unsettling. I project what are facts. You do read the newspapaers and/or have a TV, I hope? Muslims are fighting the "Crusaders" and cannot get past their hatred of Christianty.

Both sides were guilty of atrocities. The Muslim world's view and fear of Christian domination is not with out foundation. I believe it was our President that foolishly used the words Crusade when declaring war on terrorist. Jews should wonder too, they have a long history of atrocities committed against them by Christians. Often the Muslim world welcomed them as Christian nations showed them harmful distain. You should read more non bigoted propaganda and do less math.

I am a "protest . . . ant." You can fill in the blanks on my views on Catholcism on many, many things.

I think you should take out the dots(blanks), "I am a protest ant".

Questioning motives is the right thing to do.

Maybe but projecting them isn't.

Please, I'd be interested in how the Liberal views on MTV compare with the Gospels? Please?

What does that have to do with anything including this thread?

Like I wrote "debauchery" defines Liberal politics.

I think you define your debauchery as projected upon everyone else.

[Cephus]

You pitiless views of Islamic atrocities against Christians is unsettling. I project what are facts. You do read the newspapaers and/or have a TV, I hope? Muslims are fighting the "Crusaders" and cannot get past their hatred of Christianty.

Hate to say it, but you may want to go look at what the Crusaders did to the Muslims as they turned the hillsides bloody red. Compared to Christian atrocities in the middle ages, the Muslims are just following your example.

[Cathar1950]

I was going to mention bloody red hillsides but I was about to eat and didn't want to upset my gut. Don't forget the Christians practiced on the Jews.

[AlAyeti]

Hate to say it, but you may want to go look at what the Crusaders did to the Muslims as they turned the hillsides bloody red. Compared to Christian atrocities in the middle ages, the Muslims are just following your example.

Hate to say it (not really) but MUSLIMS are STILL killing people!

This is where the term: "If you tell a lie long enough, you can get yourself to believe it," finds its foundation.

The Muslims attacked the Christians first and took Jerusalem after slaughtering the inhabitants and enslaving some Christian children. The Crusades were a response, of an unprovoked war, that took away the holy land. Christians had done nothing to Muslims before the attack on Jerusalem.

You many want to look up the word "Dhimmi" to see how good Jews had it under Muslim rule.

I have history books too.

Also, please point out any other time "Christians" attacked Muslims in their own countries in any "Crusade?" While you're at it, please look up or at least think about the inhabitants of Mecca, that suffered the exact same thing as did the Christians in Jerusalem, from Islam, the religion of peace.

Why do liberals rewrite or revise, whatever the don't like about history?

By the way Cathar, the three dots are called an ellipsis. The denote an idea or words that are missing.

So we have "protest" (because of many wrong things we observe in what we are protesting about) and "ant," denoting being in the condition. I am in the condition of thinking Catholicism is wrong about some things. I remain so. See why the ellipsis?

Protestants are skeptics and free thinkers on just about everything.

Here's a blurb on Dhimmi. Hate to get too far off topic but what the heck.

http://www.dhimmi.com/dhimmi_overview.htm

The Dhimmi: An Overview
DEFINITION: The status of People of the Book (Jews and Christians) unders Islamic rule.

DHIMMI HOTSPOTS:
Pakistan: anti-Christian legislation
Iran: Systematic oppression of the Bahai community
Sudan: Murder and enslavement of Black Africans
Saudi Arabia: Apartheid for all non-Muslims
Indonesia: Terrorizing of Christian minorities
Egypt: Oppression of Coptic Christians
Bangladesh: Terrorizing of Hindu and Christian minorities by Islamic radicals

DHIMMI: A BRIEF OVERVIEW
7th-21st century. The notion of Dhimmitude, originating in the 7th century, still applies today to non-Muslims under Islamic rulewhether Jews or Christians, whether in Saudi Arabia or in Sudan. Dhimmitude began in 628 CE when Mohammed and his forces conquered the Jewish oasis at Khaybar. They massacred many of the Jews and forced the rest to accept a pact ("Dhimma") which rendered them inferiror to their Muslim conquerors. Over the centuries, the ideology of Dhimmitude expanded into a formal system of religious apartheid.

Institutionalized apartheid. In Sharia law, there are official discriminations against the Dhimmi, such as the poll-tax or jizya.

No legal rights. Jews may not testify in court against a Muslim and have no legal right to dispute or challenge anything done to them by Muslims. There is no such thing as a Muslim raping a Jewish woman; there is no such thing as a Muslim murdering a Jew (at most, it can be manslaughter). In contrast, a Jew who strikes a Muslim is killed.

Humiliation and vulnerability. Jews and Christians had to walk around with badges or veils identifying them as Jews or Christians. The yellow star that Jews had wear in Nazi Germany did not originate in Europe. It was borrowed from the Muslim world where it was part of the apartheid system of Dhimmitude.

Conditional protection. The protection of the Dhimmi is withdrawn if the Dhimmi rebels against Islamic law, gives allegiance to non-Muslim power (such as Israel), refuses to pay the poll-tax, entices a Muslim from his faith, or harms a Muslim or his property. If the protection is lifted, jihad resumes. For example, Islamists in Egypt who pillage and kill the Copts do so because they no longer pay their poll-tax and therefore are no longer protected.

Dhimmi Victims Gallery | History and Theory of Dhimmitude | Dhimmi Links

[Cathar1950]

I know what the 3 dots are for. The Muslims still think we are killing them.
The first crusade 30,000 Jews and Muslim were killed in Jerusalem alone.
We killed more kids with the childrens crusade.

[AlAyeti]

I know what the 3 dots are for.

It clearly appeared you didn't. I apologize.

The Muslims still think we are killing them.

"We?" Who are "you" referring to? The only people perpetuating the Crusade myth is Muslims and Liberals. Isn't it time to stamp out ignorance?

The first crusade 30,000 Jews and Muslim were killed in Jerusalem alone.
We killed more kids with the childrens crusade.

And, doing the math . . . the Muslims started the war. Do you feel the same sympathy for the untold numbers of the Meccan populace slaughtered, enslved or absorbed by Muslims in their promtion of Islam, The Religion of Peace?

And, Islam and Muslims have not stopped the carnage. Do you have access to newspapaers or a TV?

History like blame, in context, would be nice. For a change.

Truth is something I do not deny.

[Cathar1950]

It clearly appeared you didn't. I apologize.

I was filling in the blanks(your dots) as you called them. Clearly you didn't use them properly and you didn't get my little pun.

"We?" Who are "you" referring to? The only people perpetuating the Crusade myth is Muslims and Liberals. Isn't it time to stamp out ignorance?

We as in Christians like Paul uses "we" as in gentiles.
It is not a myth and it is not just Muslims and liberals.
We should be grateful for the crusades, they brought us math greek science and soap to backward uncivilized Europeans. Of course there is the Crusades against the Cathars. Maybe the Muslims started that too.